Breast Growth For Genetic Males

And liver protection too right?

wow.. i never saw that one!

(26-07-2016, 08:43 PM)Lotus Wrote: [ -> ]Thanks for the link Jamie.

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Milk Thistle increased milk production by 85.94% in this study below. Btw, blessed thistle may increase stomach acid, be careful there.

Clinical efficacy, safety and tolerability of BIO-C (micronized Silymarin) as a galactagogue
Di Pierro F1, Callegari A, Carotenuto D, Tapia MM.
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Abstract
BACKGROUND AND AIM OF THE WORK:
The authors have previously reported the use of Silymarin (a Silybum marianum standardized extract) as a promoter of milk production in cows. Due to the important psychological impact of hypogalactia in women after delivery, we evaluated the role of Silymarin as a safe and effective galactogogue for human species.
METHODS:
50 healthy women during lactation were enrolled in order to verify the galactogogue role played by an oral treatment with micronized Silymarin (420 mg/day) in comparison with an undistinguishable placebo product.
RESULTS:
Women orally treated for 63 days with Silymarin showed a clear galactagogue role for the product with an increase of 85.94% of the daily milk production (placebo: +32.09%). No drop out, nor unwanted effects were reported in both groups. Compliance and tolerability were also very good.
CONCLUSIONS:
Silymarin may be considered as a safe and effective herbal product that can be orally administered in order to improve the daily milk production in healthy women after delivery, without affecting milk quality.
PMID: 19260380

Very interesting

(26-07-2016, 09:10 PM)ellacraig Wrote: [ -> ]And liver protection too right?

Yes, good point. Milk Thistle is also hepatoprotective, and anti-inflammatory.


Milk thistle and the treatment of hepatitis.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11847735

(26-07-2016, 09:46 PM)myboobs Wrote: [ -> ]Very interesting

Indeed.

Hey Lotus, you have been raising my interest with that new combination Epo+peanut oil..you said it opened new receptors? Please tell me more, how do we use this nutty combination?:p

(06-08-2016, 07:51 PM)hannah Wrote: [ -> ]Hey Lotus, you have been raising my interest with that new combination Epo+peanut oil..you said it opened new receptors? Please tell me more, how do we use this nutty combination?:p

Oh that nutty combo? , (yes, here it is). First, heads up to peanut allergy suffers, alternatively, replacing with an omega 3 supplement is an option in my opinion, my choice of omega 3 option would be krill oil instead of peanut oil.

I think peanut oil works because it contains resveratrol (a known aromatase) and nitric oxide (a second messenger, aka promotes DNA synthesis). EPO (evening primrose oil) inhibits DHT and is a pro-aromatase. Signaling pathways are very interesting, they involve hormones (sex streiods), fatty acids, enzymes (e.g. Acetyl coenzyme A or acetyl-CoA) etc, understanding these pathways helps us to understand how relates to NBE (hrt too)..........and yes it's very complicated, to me it's worth investigating.

Quote:Both linoleate and arachidonate can activate Type-II and Type-III protein kinase-C in MEC

translation—linoleate (i.e. evening primrose oil) and arachidonate (i.e. peanut oil) improves cellular affinity of mammary epithelial.....aka milk duds, I mean milk ducts. though do add calcium with this combination, it activates the proteins.

Peanut oil (a DIY home method to make peanut oil is included).
http://articles.mercola.com/herbal-oils/peanut-oil.aspx

(17-04-2015, 01:02 AM)Lotus Wrote: [ -> ]Ok, now we're making some progress, "linoleic acid (18:2 omega 6) and prostaglandin E2 or cAMP has synergistic effect on EGF-stimulated growth".

(Linoleic acid is evening primrose oil.)

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transducers: amplification of signals from growth factor receptors by fatty acids in mammary epithelial cells.

Abstract
The growth, morphogenesis and differentiation of milk producing epithelial tissues in the developing mammary glands require interaction with extracellular matrices and stimulation by hormones, growth factors and essential fatty acids. In primary culture, the proliferation of mammary epithelial cells (MEC), induced by epidermal growth factor (EGF), is enhanced and sustained by linoleate and its eicosanoid metabolites. Since a combination of linoleic acid (18:2 omega 6) and prostaglandin E2 or cAMP has synergistic effect on EGF-stimulated growth, it is suggested that additional cAMP-dependent protein kinase A (PK-A) independent pathways may also contribute to the linoleate effect on EGF action. Possible involvement of Ca2+/phospholipid-dependent protein kinase C (PK-C) is explored. Both linoleate and arachidonate can activate Type-II and Type-III protein kinase-C in MEC and a PK-C inhibitor can block growth stimulation by EGF and fatty acids. Like 12-O-Tetradecanoly phorbol-13-acetate (TPA), a PK-C activator which also enhances EGF-stimulated growth of MEC, linoleate can phosphorylate a 40-42 KD protein. EGF itself can stimulate transient phosphorylation of the same protein in MEC cultures but when supplemented with linoleate, which does not influence the ligand binding affinity of EGF-receptors, the transient phosphorylation signal in 40-42 KD protein is sustained.(ABSTRACT TRUNCATED AT 250 WORDS)

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8424125

Hi L
So would this help me and my project?

Thanks a lot Lotus for revealing this to us....this sounds awesome But how do we take it? How much mgs do we need to supplement with? Or do we add the oil externally? And then you also mention calcium.. do we just drink milk or do we need lots of it? And then the last question when exactly do we take this? Daily or whenever you like? Or cycled? Or before sleep? Thanks again,you're awesome at this stuff!

(07-08-2016, 06:20 AM)ellacraig Wrote: [ -> ]Hi L
So would this help me and my project?

Hi Ella,

I think if you maintain a balance of omega 6 to omega 3 (1:1 minimum ratio) it would help. Though increasing omega 3's could be of more benefit too (example @ 1:3 ratio). The EPO/peanut/calcium should help build back up milk supply, (have you added milk thistle?).

(07-08-2016, 11:56 AM)hannah Wrote: [ -> ]Thanks a lot Lotus for revealing this to us....this sounds awesome But how do we take it?. How much mgs do we need to supplement with? Or do we add the oil externally? And then you also mention calcium.. do we just drink milk or do we need lots of it? And then the last question when exactly do we take this? Daily or whenever you like? Or cycled? Or before sleep? Thanks again,you're awesome at this stuff!

You're welcome Hannah,

I use these items when I take E2 (pharma estradiol), though substitute NBE with your choice of phytoestrogens. I've gained a 1/4 inch in 2 weeks from using this trial, results will vary I'm sure. For gals, I'd say cycle this w/E2 (phytoestrogens) for the first half (day 1-14). For genetic males, cycle (break) when needed, (that's a few day month for me).

1 tsp. of peanut oil is 45 calories, (start with a 1/2 teaspoon).

EPO @ 1000mg 2x/day
1/2 teaspoon peanut oil (2x/day) substitute with omega 3 supplement (krill or fish oil)
calcium, 600mg tablet 2x/day (milk?, good question). for me is choose pill form.

Optional:
Milk Thistle 2x per day (420mg was used in the study listed previously.
Gelatin 1300mg (capsule)
Vitamin D3 (sublingual)........optionally add forskolin (250mg) 2x/day w/vitamin D3

Peanut oil can be either refined or cold-pressed from peanut kernels. This is how the oils sold in your local stores are made. However, you can make your own peanut oil at home. Here’s what to do:

Materials:

3 cups shelled organic peanuts
3 tbsp. warm water
Blender

Procedure:

De-hull the peanuts and clean them thoroughly in warm water.

Put the peanuts in a blender with three tablespoons of warm water and blend until smooth, like peanut butter.

Pour this mixture in a bowl and cover. Refrigerate it for 24 hours, which will allow the oil to rise. This will produce at least one cup of oil.

Pour the oil into a strainer over a bowl, separating the oil from the peanut mixture.
Transfer the oil to a jar, seal tightly with a lid, and refrigerate.

Tip: use the leftover peanut mixture to make homemade peanut butter.

How Does Peanut Oil Work?

Peanut oil can be applied topically on your skin, blended with other essential oils, or ingested (in moderation). Aside from its rich nutrient profile, peanut oil penetrates well in your body and in your circulatory system. This makes it an ideal carrier oil for other more potent essential oils.

http://articles.mercola.com/herbal-oils/peanut-oil.aspx