Breast Growth For Genetic Males

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Lotus, your new pic (Avatar) reminds me of Mona Lisa Smile. Huh
Eloise,

Steer clear from NBE Breast Busters, (e.g. foods that inhibit aromatase, meds/supplements, cigs, red wines and red grapes, st. john's wort, caffeine, these can either inhibit or speed up E metabolism, foods that increase androgens, etc). Limit the amount of endocrine disrupting chemicals, you know, the bad E's,

Quote:Estrogens break down or are detoxified into estrogen metabolites—daughter compounds—called 2-hydroxyestrone, 4-hydroxyestrone, and 16-hydroxyestrone. These metabolites can have stronger or weaker estrogenic activity—and thus increase a woman's risk of breast, uterine, and other cancers—depending on how they are metabolized.

Plan a detox 1x per month, Good in E, and Bad E out! Wink

Get plenty of sleep, take GH before bedtime, use breathing techniques, exercise (abs and breasts) at work, (this can be done while in a seated position).

Sorry, but I have a laundry list of NBE "Do's and Don'ts.....(OCD)
(12-10-2014, 03:32 AM)pom19 Wrote: [ -> ]Lotus, your new pic (Avatar) reminds me of Mona Lisa Smile. Huh
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I meant that as a compliment.

(12-10-2014, 05:23 AM)pom19 Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-10-2014, 03:32 AM)pom19 Wrote: [ -> ]Lotus, your new pic (Avatar) reminds me of Mona Lisa Smile. Huh
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I meant that as a compliment.

It's cool POM, honestly I was going to change the avatar daily in keeping with a Halloween Theme, just my way of keeping myself amused lol. (A familiar sexy goth tone may present itself, ha!). Lunacy! Tongue

btw, what does the OM stand for?

Duh!, I see, it's the OM in POM.
(12-10-2014, 05:31 AM)Lotus Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-10-2014, 05:23 AM)pom19 Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-10-2014, 03:32 AM)pom19 Wrote: [ -> ]Lotus, your new pic (Avatar) reminds me of Mona Lisa Smile. Huh
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I meant that as a compliment.

It's cool POM, honestly I was going to change the avatar daily in keeping with a Halloween Theme, just my way of keeping myself amused lol. (A familiar sexy goth tone may present itself, ha!). Lunacy! Tongue

btw, what does the OM stand for?

Duh!, I see, it's the OM in POM.
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I am glad to see that I did not disturb you.
The way the Creator does creation is thru VIBRATION. We probably have infinite level of vibrations. One of the highest is Light, and then comes down to lower level of vibrations. The lowest are in the physical planes that we can touch and see. They are basically of lowest forms of vibration. Every organ in our body has its own level of vibration, which is the secret of healing. So, if you can tune into that organ's vibration then you can heal it completely. We do have actually practitioners that are specialized in that field and without touching you they can heal you. It is too bad that the main stream of medicine does not speak of it. As someone once said, it is because they cannot make any money out of it.
And now the answer to your question-OM. The sound of OM (say it loud and slowly enough that you literally will feel the vibration in your body and mouth) is the lowest level of etheric vibration before manifesting itself into a physical form. The eastern mystics have been using them for eons as a sign of gratitude for manifesting a physical object. I also heard recently that the frequency of Sun's vibration is the sound of OM!!! Actually for next few days for about only 5 minutes a day do OM, and see the result for whatever you want to manifest. <3 POM


No caffeine?! Without it, I would cease to function. I've been trying for ages to reduce my consumption but whenever I find myself at a nadir, a project comes up, and so does my caffeine intake. I doubt I'll ever be able to kick the habit. For better health reasons, I've begun to shift from caffeinated sodas to tea--in order to reduce sugar intake. But thank you for your advice. Now, time to go and buy a few boxes of Twinkies and stuff my face. Nom nom nom. Wink Just kidding. Your advice corroborated things that I've been doing so it reassures me that I'm on the right path. I just wanted to see if I could squeeze some double-secret advice out of your. Tongue
(12-10-2014, 06:00 AM)pom19 Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-10-2014, 05:31 AM)Lotus Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-10-2014, 05:23 AM)pom19 Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-10-2014, 03:32 AM)pom19 Wrote: [ -> ]Lotus, your new pic (Avatar) reminds me of Mona Lisa Smile. Huh
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I meant that as a compliment.

It's cool POM, honestly I was going to change the avatar daily in keeping with a Halloween Theme, just my way of keeping myself amused lol. (A familiar sexy goth tone may present itself, ha!). Lunacy! Tongue

btw, what does the OM stand for?

Duh!, I see, it's the OM in POM.
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I am glad to see that I did not disturb you.
The way the Creator does creation is thru VIBRATION. We probably have infinite level of vibrations. One of the highest is Light, and then comes down to lower level of vibrations. The lowest are in the physical planes that we can touch and see. They are basically of lowest forms of vibration. Every organ in our body has its own level of vibration, which is the secret of healing. So, if you can tune into that organ's vibration then you can heal it completely. We do have actually practitioners that are specialized in that field and without touching you they can heal you. It is too bad that the main stream of medicine does not speak of it. As someone once said, it is because they cannot make any money out of it.
And now the answer to your question-OM. The sound of OM (say it loud and slowly enough that you literally will feel the vibration in your body and mouth) is the lowest level of etheric vibration before manifesting itself into a physical form. The eastern mystics have been using them for eons as a sign of gratitude for manifesting a physical object. I also heard recently that the frequency of Sun's vibration is the sound of OM!!! Actually for next few days for about only 5 minutes a day do OM, and see the result for whatever you want to manifest. <3 POM

Thanks POM, that's beautiful info, I will try it. Wink

POM @ Healing Master
(12-10-2014, 04:52 PM)eloise614 Wrote: [ -> ]No caffeine?! Without it, I would cease to function. I've been trying for ages to reduce my consumption but whenever I find myself at a nadir, a project comes up, and so does my caffeine intake. I doubt I'll ever be able to kick the habit. For better health reasons, I've begun to shift from caffeinated sodas to tea--in order to reduce sugar intake. But thank you for your advice. Now, time to go and buy a few boxes of Twinkies and stuff my face. Nom nom nom. Wink Just kidding. Your advice corroborated things that I've been doing so it reassures me that I'm on the right path. I just wanted to see if I could squeeze some double-secret advice out of your. Tongue

I rule out caffeine because it restricts blood flow needed for breast growth and may inhibit aromatase, It will seem hypocritical when I give you the rest of this info, so the decision is up to u all. For the "Double Top Secret Advice", you need to sign the waiver, lol. Seriously though, I do have a list, but why risk it. Wink

A study in the October 2001 issue of "Fertility and Sterility" found that more than one cup of coffee a day increased estrogen in women between the ages of 36 and 45 in the first stage of the menstrual cycle. In a study reported in the June 2005 issue of "Cancer," caffeine intake decreased estradiol, one of the forms of estrogen, during the luteal phase of the menstrual cycle. Both caffeinated coffee and caffeinated tea had this effect. The researchers thought caffeine might inhibit aromatase, a key enzyme in the production of estrogen in the body.
(That's a biggie right there).
http://www.livestrong.com/article/503844...en-levels/


In a study of 269 women, researchers took measurements of hormone levels across two menstrual cycles, while repeatedly recording how many caffeinated drinks the women were consuming. Interestingly, they discovered that caffeine affects estrogen levels differently among women of different races. Moderate daily caffeine intake—about two cups of coffee or 200 mg a day—lowered estrogen levels among white women, potentially offering protection from diseases linked to higher estrogen, such as reproductive cancers. On the other hand, Black and Asian women who drank the same amount of caffeine experienced elevated estrogen levels.
http://www.prevention.com/health/healthy...vels-study

Even though caffeine can boost your metabolism in the short term, this effect is diminished in long-term coffee drinkers due to tolerance.

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However, coffee for men....

The ingestion of 300 mg of caffeine prior to food intake, compared to placebo, was shown to significantly reduce energy intake by 21.7% in healthy men, but not in women.

Caffeinated coffee does not acutely affect energy intake, appetite, or inflammation but prevents serum cortisol concentrations from falling in healthy men.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21346100


Cortisol-induced suppression of plasma testosterone in normal adult males.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/956348

Data suggests that ACTH-induced suppression of testosterone is due to an action of cortisol.

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Caffeinated Coffee Does Not Acutely Affect Energy Intake, Appetite, or Inflammation but Prevents Serum Cortisol Concentrations from Falling in Healthy Men.
http://jn.nutrition.org/content/early/20...3.full.pdf



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Bottom line:

Coffee raises E in women, especially in the first few days of the luteal phase (4 cups)
In men Coffee lowers Testosterone by way of cortisol (which part of T, I'll get back to ya).

Listed above-
Cortisol-induced suppression of plasma testosterone in normal adult males.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/956348

Coffee=Confusing, oh boy!!!! Rolleyes


The liver detoxifies caffeine using the CYP1A2 enzyme system, which is also responsible for initial metabolism of estrogen during Phase I clearance by the liver. This is one reason caffeine is likely metabolized more slowly in women taking oral contraceptives or postmenopausal hormone replacement therapy.
While research showing the effects of chronic caffeine consumption on circulating levels of estrogen isn’t yet available, researchers have suggested that caffeine consumption may lower the risk of breast cancer by upregulating the CYP1A2 isoenzyme and thus improving estrogen metabolism.

So, the jury is temporarily out to lunch. DodgyBig Grin

Putting it all together
No known studies demonstrate statistically significant correlations between coffee over-consumption and the unwinding of the neuroendocrineimmune system. We just don’t know for sure yet how all the puzzle pieces fit together.
However, certain theoretical pathways can be created, and have been observed clinically. We can also make some informed speculation based on what we already know of the neuroendocrineimmune system’s interrelationships.
http://www.precisionnutrition.com/coffee-and-hormones

My brain is hurting, lol, I'll do battle with caffeine and coffee another day. Rolleyes
Lotus, Doctors are sometimes confused as to why aspirin works up to about 20 yrs. ago. So, what's new?? There was a scare about heart patients drinking more than 2 cups of coffee per day.... and also about dehydration. But wasn't it about 4 months back that a new study said neither was a concern???

I quit scratching my head and figured if I do or drink too much, my body will let me know. Right???
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