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(06-10-2014, 07:57 PM)ELLACRAIG Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-10-2014, 07:30 PM)Lotus Wrote: [ -> ]Thanks spoked and Kristen for your kind words. Wink

I hear you re being grateful. I'm feeling emotional today. Had an argument with hubby last night and took off for a drive to clear my head. Then woke up this morn to hear a couple of hours after I drove past this certain stretch of road up from my house where i had driven over a driver had a major accident with another innocent driver and was killed. I keep thinking if id left a little later or he had come through a little earlier it could have been me (he was driving on the opposite side of the road). And what if he was upset when he was driving like I was and that's what caused it Sad
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Dear Ella, repeat the following often, until it becomes part of your character, MAKE SURE YOU SAY IT WITH EMOTION:

I AM THE MASTER OF MY EMOTIONS.

<3 POM

(06-10-2014, 08:37 PM)pom19 Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-10-2014, 07:57 PM)ELLACRAIG Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-10-2014, 07:30 PM)Lotus Wrote: [ -> ]Thanks spoked and Kristen for your kind words. Wink

I hear you re being grateful. I'm feeling emotional today. Had an argument with hubby last night and took off for a drive to clear my head. Then woke up this morn to hear a couple of hours after I drove past this certain stretch of road up from my house where i had driven over a driver had a major accident with another innocent driver and was killed. I keep thinking if id left a little later or he had come through a little earlier it could have been me (he was driving on the opposite side of the road). And what if he was upset when he was driving like I was and that's what caused it Sad
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Dear Ella, repeat the following often, until it becomes part of your character, MAKE SURE YOU SAY IT WITH EMOTION:

I AM THE MASTER OF MY EMOTIONS.

<3 POM

Thanks pom. You always know what to say Smile
(06-10-2014, 08:50 PM)ELLACRAIG Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-10-2014, 08:37 PM)pom19 Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-10-2014, 07:57 PM)ELLACRAIG Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-10-2014, 07:30 PM)Lotus Wrote: [ -> ]Thanks spoked and Kristen for your kind words. Wink

I hear you re being grateful. I'm feeling emotional today. Had an argument with hubby last night and took off for a drive to clear my head. Then woke up this morn to hear a couple of hours after I drove past this certain stretch of road up from my house where i had driven over a driver had a major accident with another innocent driver and was killed. I keep thinking if id left a little later or he had come through a little earlier it could have been me (he was driving on the opposite side of the road). And what if he was upset when he was driving like I was and that's what caused it Sad
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Dear Ella, repeat the following often, until it becomes part of your character, MAKE SURE YOU SAY IT WITH EMOTION:

I AM THE MASTER OF MY EMOTIONS.

<3 POM
Thanks pom. You always know what to say Smile
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Actually in my real life, I am very quiet and reserved. I even keep the guest chair in my office way away from me for my guest to sit down. Unfortunately most of the time they try to pull it close to me, and once one of them said "We just like to sit close to you-Smile". But I am sincerely happy to share words of wisdom on this forum. They do not belong to me anyway, and it's fun to share. Smile

I am sorry Lotus for posting these on your thread. I forgot this is your thread. My bad.
(06-10-2014, 07:57 PM)ELLACRAIG Wrote: [ -> ]I keep thinking if id left a little later or he had come through a little earlier it could have been me (he was driving on the opposite side of the road). And what if he was upset when he was driving like I was and that's what caused it Sad

Ella,

Phew, definitely a close one. I look at this way, ITS NOT YOUR TIME sweetheart, and put that sucker in your rear-view mirror and do like Morgan Freeman said in the movie Shawshank Redemption "Get busy living," let's leave out the other half though....

POM @ zen master Wink post away my friend, there's no starch in my shirts.
(06-10-2014, 09:09 PM)Lotus Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-10-2014, 07:57 PM)ELLACRAIG Wrote: [ -> ]I keep thinking if id left a little later or he had come through a little earlier it could have been me (he was driving on the opposite side of the road). And what if he was upset when he was driving like I was and that's what caused it Sad

Ella,

Phew, definitely a close one. I look at this way, ITS NOT YOUR TIME sweetheart, and put that sucker in your rear-view mirror and do like Morgan Freeman said in the movie Shawshank Redemption "Get busy living," let's leave out the other half though....

POM @ zen master Wink post away my friend, there's no starch in my shirts.
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And how many times I have watched Shawshank Redemption, so I may deeply understand the cruelty of the Matrix.

Thanks L. Affirmations are wonderful. Reading alot of mind/body connections lately Smile
For the GG's, PCOS,

Caution-technical info ahead, but hey, I put the eck in ech (aka-t'ech'nical, lol).



PCOS is a complex disorder of unknown etiology, and it involves several specialists for presenting reproductive, endocrinologic, dermatological, gynecological, cardiac and psychological implications.

Hyperinsulinemia seems to be one of the main factors responsible for steroidogenesis deregulation.

The variable and heterogeneous clinical picture makes diagnosis of PCOS difficult and tends to delay management that could avoid late complications.

Its treatment is preventive and aims to maintain the endometrial healthy, to antagonize the actions of androgens in target-tissues, to reduce insulin resistance (IR) and to correct anovulation. In addition to combined contraceptives and antiandrogens, the insulin-sensitizing agents are effective in preventing diseases associated with hyperinsulinemia. It is difficult to explain the therapeutic success of metformin in reducing insulin and androgen levels, as observed in some studies. It may be related to genetic variations, body weight, life style, duration of treatment and dosage of the drug.

Today, in order to avoid late complications, the specialists share investigations, trying to understand the etiology and pathophysiology of PCOS, which are essential for its treatment. The main focus of these studies has been several genetic and environmental determinants of the syndrome, for reflecting its heterogeneous phenotype.


The androgens derive from cholesterol and, in females, are synthetized by the ovaries, adrenal glands and in extraglandular sites of steroid conversion (liver, muscles, skin and adipose tissue).29,30 Androgen aromatization occurs in muscle and adipose tissues, that is, testosterone (T) and androstenedione (A) are converted into estrogens - estrone and estradiol, whereas, in the pilosebaceous unit and skin, T is converted into dihydrotestosterone (DHT) by the enzyme 5-alpha-reductase 1 or 2 (Figure 1B).29

The pilosebaceous unit and skin represent target-structures for androgen, which explains the pathophysiology of hyperandrogenism cutaneous manifestations (hirsutism, acne, seborrhea and alopecia).2

3-alpha-androstenediol glucuronide (3a diol G) derives from the conversion of DHT and A, by means of 5a-redutase. It is considered a marker of androgen biological action in the pilosebaceous unit, and the skin its main production site.2,4,29,30

Androgen biosynthesis (Figure 2) is mediated by cytochrome P-450c-17, an enzyme with 17a-hidroxylase, 17, 29-lyase and 17b-hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase (17b HSD or 17b R) activities. The androgens (A and T) are aromatized to estrone by the enzyme aromatase (cytochrome p-450 aromatase).27,29,31


In the ovaries, the androgens are precursors of estrogens and their production is controlled by LH/FSH (Figures 1Aand 2, and Chart 2).29,30,32 Normal ovarian function is determined by a combined action of LH in the theca cells, corpus luteum and stroma, and of FSH in granulosa cells.28

3. The role of insulin

Insulin is a polypeptide secreted by b-cells of the pancreas, and play an important role in glucose homeostasis.4,19,31 The classic target tissues include liver, muscles and adipose tissue. The terms insulin sensitivity and insulin resistance (IR) refer to the action of insulin in glucose homeostasis.4,19,31



4. Peripheral increase in cortisol metabolism

Increased androgen production by adrenal glands is observed in 25% of PCOS patients,70 probably as a result of genetic influence or secondary to abnormal secretion of ovarian androgens.31,65



Hyperandrogenism and skin: polycystic ovary syndrome and peripheral insulin resistance*

http://www.scielo.br/scielo.php?pid=S0365-05962005000400011&script=sci_arttext&tlng=en
First off, as always, your breasts look fantastic, Lotus. I look down my chest at my mosquito bites and say "See, it's possible now get growing!"

Probably more than anyone here, you've experimented the most. And based on that knowledge and experience, if you were to put out a "Guide To Growing Boobs", what would you list as your top 3 things (i.e., herbs, exercises, techniques, ect..)?
(08-10-2014, 10:07 PM)eloise614 Wrote: [ -> ]First off, as always, your breasts look fantastic, Lotus. I look down my chest at my mosquito bites and say "See, it's possible now get growing!"

Probably more than anyone here, you've experimented the most. And based on that knowledge and experience, if you were to put out a "Guide To Growing Boobs", what would you list as your top 3 things (i.e., herbs, exercises, techniques, ect..)?

Lol thanks, that's a nice compliment,

3 things?, that's easy, Pizza, Beer and Chips, oops I forgot!, those damn Twinkies too. RolleyesAngryBig Grin (yes, that's four, j/k)

You're on the right track though, for herbs, it's quality over quantity, flooding the receptors doesn't necessary equal more growth potential, it's just wasteful IMO, reference the "Lock and Key" theory (Anti-Androgen thread). Massage Massage Massage, activating breast E-receptors by massage imo yields better results. Suction is ok, but the grab and pull massage and isometrics (page I forget where lol), although results may vary, again, this is just my opinion.

Oh, patience is a big help too, keep everything in the healthy range and don't overload that poor liver!!, you'd be surprised what goes on (the synthesis of hormones) inside the liver.

Edit for POM Wink
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