I find it dam near impossible to totally eliminate caffeine, it takes some practice but you can have some success. Try decaf coffee, it's actually more estrogenic than reg. coffee, of course even decaf still has caffeine but it's a step in the right direction. As Pom has indicated (who btw, has an awesomely shaped body) tea (decaf) is a good option as a replacement for coffee, I used spearmint tea for a time and then switched to White Peony Root tea, mainly for the purpose of aromatase (converts testosterone to estrogen), if comparing the two here's some info.
White Peony--Estrogenic, blocks 5ar and pro-aromatase - Strong.
A compound found in white peony inhibits the production of testosterone and promotes the activity of aromatase, which converts testosterone into estrogen.
Spearmint-anti-androgenic properties reduce the level of free testosterone in the blood, while leaving total testosterone and DHEAS unaffected.
Lotus, since you said earlier that SP depletes estrogens, I stopped my SP after taking it for almost 1 year and 4 months in the form of tea or cap. I ordered White Peony tea, which actually I am having some now, but in the description says it is actually white tea, which I do not understand why they call it Peony white tea. Should I just buy White Peony Root Extract? Although this tea is awesome that I am drinking.
And thanks for your compliment. POM
(02-08-2014, 03:11 AM)AlexisM Wrote: [ -> ]Here's another one:
http://www.livestrong.com/article/526047...tosterone/
which contends that caffeine increases testosterone in men - just the opposite of its effect in women.
Amazing article, but as Lotus said the infos are contradictory on coffee. Just ask your body what she wants.
White peony tea is a fraud! This is ordinary tea. "White tea" is tea that is unprocessed. The term "white peony" here has to do with the way the leaves are cut. This product has nothing to do with white peony root. I learned this after buying a package of the tea from Whole Foods. In big letters it said white peony tea. But the contents were identified (in small letters) as white tea. So I called the manufacturer and spoke to the buyer who told me that everyone in the tea business knows the meaning of white peony. He couldn't understand that us poor consumers just might be misled by this false packaging. Anyway, as far as tea goes, it wasn't bad.
(02-08-2014, 03:37 AM)AlexisM Wrote: [ -> ]White peony tea is a fraud! This is ordinary tea. "White tea" is tea that is unprocessed. The term "white peony" here has to do with the way the leaves are cut. This product has nothing to do with white peony root. I learned this after buying a package of the tea from Whole Foods. In big letters it said white peony tea. But the contents were identified (in small letters) as white tea. So I called the manufacturer and spoke to the buyer who told me that everyone in the tea business knows the meaning of white peony. He couldn't understand that us poor consumers just might be misled by this false packaging. Anyway, as far as tea goes, it wasn't bad.
Exactly, that was my conclusion.
(02-08-2014, 03:11 AM)pom19 Wrote: [ -> ]Lotus, since you said earlier that SP depletes estrogens, I stopped my SP after taking it for almost 1 year and 4 months in the form of tea or cap. I ordered White Peony tea, which actually I am having some now, but in the description says it is actually white tea, which I do not understand why they call it Peony white tea. Should I just buy White Peony Root Extract? Although this tea is awesome that I am drinking.
And thanks for your compliment. POM
Hi Pom,
Good question, I was also troubled that WP tea (which btw white tea gets it's name from when it's harvested before the tea leaf opens it's covered with fuzzy white hair) wasn't strong enough so I added the extract which has a 1:1 ratio, which I'm glad I did and would say it's was a good move, (give WP a few months to gauge results). Spearmint tea is just to minty for me, WP tea although slightly bitter fills the void I was missing from having an effective hot brewed replace for coffee.
(02-08-2014, 04:02 AM)Lotus Wrote: [ -> ] (02-08-2014, 03:11 AM)pom19 Wrote: [ -> ]Lotus, since you said earlier that SP depletes estrogens, I stopped my SP after taking it for almost 1 year and 4 months in the form of tea or cap. I ordered White Peony tea, which actually I am having some now, but in the description says it is actually white tea, which I do not understand why they call it Peony white tea. Should I just buy White Peony Root Extract? Although this tea is awesome that I am drinking.
And thanks for your compliment. POM
Hi Pom,
Good question, I was also troubled that WP tea (which btw white tea gets it's name from when it's harvested before the tea leaf opens it's covered with fuzzy white hair) wasn't strong enough so I added the extract which has a 1:1 ratio, which I'm glad I did and would say it's was a good move, (give WP a few months to gauge results). Spearmint tea is just to minty for me, WP tea although slightly bitter fills the void I was missing from having an effective hot brewed replace for coffee.
I am ordering some WP extract now. Thanks...
(02-08-2014, 03:37 AM)AlexisM Wrote: [ -> ]White peony tea is a fraud! This is ordinary tea. "White tea" is tea that is unprocessed. The term "white peony" here has to do with the way the leaves are cut. This product has nothing to do with white peony root. I learned this after buying a package of the tea from Whole Foods. In big letters it said white peony tea. But the contents were identified (in small letters) as white tea. So I called the manufacturer and spoke to the buyer who told me that everyone in the tea business knows the meaning of white peony. He couldn't understand that us poor consumers just might be misled by this false packaging. Anyway, as far as tea goes, it wasn't bad.
Unprocessed?, from everything I've read white tea is minimally proceeded, more anti-oxidants than green tea and less caffeine. Hmm, so the buyer says that the poor saps who buy white tea are misled or is it that it's called white peony tea?,
Can you say which brand?