I think T can be reliably supressed i think its the other issues like fsh levels being the real culprit alongside DHT. I think its better to just have a true blocker but I think it just depends on the individual as everyone responds sorta differently.
Ah that's cool I think with me adapting, Cypro is definitely a good option then 
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Yeah I get like spikes shooting and you can hear a audible yelp when it starts. Right now I've been getting a slight pain behind the nipple which has been switching back and forth on either. Getting the HGF up with GABA is really interesting and I've moved that up a phase since reading about it. Keep up the amazing progress maybe one day I might catch up a bit but the way your going the lead is going to be extending lol.
(12-07-2022, 12:20 PM)HandofFate Wrote: [ -> ]
So you grew to a G cup without gaining weight? Because I have never seen a male grow big breasts without being fat. I have used noogleberry for 6 hours straight every day in a month. It does nothing, however I could never get past BMI 25, and you are BMI 36.
If someone can prove males can grow big breasts without being fat I want to see.
Wow huge misgendering on a openly transgirl here. Honestly 6 hours straight every day seems ways to much to me even in one go they need to relax and come down from the swelling, you'll likely do more damage than good. I think HT has proven that GIRLS can grow big breasts and I know from her shes continued to gain size alongside losing weight.
What is it seriously with you every time I post its always something negative with you moments after and its almost always in HTs thread directed at her.
(12-07-2022, 12:20 PM)HandofFate Wrote: [ -> ]
So you grew to a G cup without gaining weight? Because I have never seen a male grow big breasts without being fat. I have used noogleberry for 6 hours straight every day in a month. It does nothing, however I could never get past BMI 25, and you are BMI 36.
If someone can prove males can grow big breasts without being fat I want to see.
I'm not even sure why in the hell am I even replying to you because you are toxic idiot who's incapable of civil discussion, you can't take any advice and you keep on pushing contradicting and stupid ideas out there like there's no tomorrow.
I have gained weight both before and during HRT. Could you please stop body shaming me by calling me fat? Yes, by BMI, I'm overweight and yes weight gain has helped with breast growth. I think you're lying about using noogle that much or you're simple doing it wrong. Stop calling me male, I am a woman who had the shitty luck of going through the nightmare of male puberty, but I'm no man. Do not call me male and do not body shame me. If you continue, I am going to report you every single time. You are a tiny bit away from being banned from this forum so I suggest you shut the fuck up or clean your manners!
Btw, FYI, during the last two and half months, I have lost about 3/4" off my band length, 1/2" from my waist, I have gained almost an inch on my hips and my tits grew 176cc's of volume. There's your proof, losing weight and gaining both hips and tits at the same time. Make out of that what ever conclusions you will.
Just for everybody's amusement I'm gonna post this one. What a difference can bit shy of thirteen months on good HRT + NBE prgoram do. Same shirt, same pose, year and half in between.
(12-07-2022, 02:03 PM)HelloDiDi Wrote: [ -> ] (12-07-2022, 12:20 PM)HandofFate Wrote: [ -> ]
So you grew to a G cup without gaining weight? Because I have never seen a male grow big breasts without being fat. I have used noogleberry for 6 hours straight every day in a month. It does nothing, however I could never get past BMI 25, and you are BMI 36.
If someone can prove males can grow big breasts without being fat I want to see.
I'm not even sure why in the hell am I even replying to you because you are toxic idiot who's incapable of civil discussion, you can't take any advice and you keep on pushing contradicting and stupid ideas out there like there's no tomorrow.
I have gained weight both before and during HRT. Could you please stop body shaming me by calling me fat? Yes, by BMI, I'm overweight and yes weight gain has helped with breast growth. I think you're lying about using noogle that much or you're simple doing it wrong. Stop calling me male, I am a woman who had the shitty luck of going through the nightmare of male puberty, but I'm no man. Do not call me male and do not body shame me. If you continue, I am going to report you every single time. You are a tiny bit away from being banned from this forum so I suggest you shut the fuck up or clean your manners!
Btw, FYI, during the last two and half months, I have lost about 3/4" off my band length, 1/2" from my waist, I have gained almost an inch on my hips and my tits grew 176cc's of volume. There's your proof, losing weight and gaining both hips and tits at the same time. Make out of that what ever conclusions you will.
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What am I doing that is deserving of a ban? I'm trying to ask you questions and you freak out. "male" is not misgendering this is a forum for biological males. Because biological females don't need to get any body fat to have bigger breasts. It's something I noticed. I do not "body shame" I am sick of you pretending you are growing breasts from supplements and not weight gain. It is very clear in the images that you were chubby before HRT and only became larger.
No I do not lie about noogleberry I have used 3 sets of foam cup rings now. They get smashed and become useless over time. My tiny breasts would become purple with the rings.
(12-07-2022, 02:51 PM)Lotus Wrote: [ -> ]Lara,
More and more handofate reinforces his position of being a troll, he's trying to fat shame the forum, go look at reddit or Ainterol forum, there's overweight people there too, does handoffate rant there? doubtful because they probably banned him already. His makes up lies to his own liking. Let's point out his hypocrisy though. Pay attention to the dates here, he states he struggles to gain weight then struggles to lose weight. And when he struggles to lose weight he's taking a diet medication, does this make any sense? I think not. You'll certainly never grow breasts with taking diet medication. I don't believe you've ever shared your bmi?
(03-06-2022, 07:37 PM)HandofFate Wrote: [ -> ] I also struggle to gain weight
(06-05-2022, 02:38 PM)HandofFate Wrote: [ -> ]I still have not had any growth. I am trying to lose all the weight I gained because it went to my stomach not my chest.
I am struggling with hunger so I take glucomannan every day.
(03-06-2022, 07:37 PM)HandofFate Wrote: [ -> ] I also struggle to gain weight
(06-05-2022, 02:38 PM)HandofFate Wrote: [ -> ]I still have not had any growth. I am trying to lose all the weight I gained because it went to my stomach not my chest.
I am struggling with hunger so I take glucomannan every day.
So you're at a 24 bmi, why try to lose more weight when you struggle to gain weigh?, it makes no sense. Glucomannan is a weight loss medication. For someone who struggles to gain weight you certainly wouldn't want to take this? So which is it?, are trying to loose weight or gain weight?.
Safety and Efficacy of Glucomannan for Weight Loss in Overweight and Moderately Obese Adults
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3892933/
It's called "weight cycling" going from 24 to 25 BMI.
You are calling me a he you deserve to be banned you actually misgender me.
(12-07-2022, 02:57 PM)HandofFate Wrote: [ -> ]
What am I doing that is deserving of a ban? I'm trying to ask you questions and you freak out. "male" is not misgendering this is a forum for biological males. Because biological females don't need to get any body fat to have bigger breasts. It's something I noticed. I do not "body shame" I am sick of you pretending you are growing breasts from supplements and not weight gain. It is very clear in the images that you were chubby before HRT and only became larger.
No I do not lie about noogleberry I have used 3 sets of foam cup rings now. They get smashed and become useless over time. My tiny breasts would become purple with the rings.
If youre breasts are becoming purple, you're over doing it and don't know shit about what you're up to.
And fuck off with all that other bullshit. Your behavior here is disruptive and bullshit after bullshit and being horrible to everyone. You totally deserve to be permabanned for good. And fuck off with your shitty use of terminology too. I'm sick of your body shaming and misgendering!
I don't owe you anything, I don't need to prove you anything.
Fuck you.
(12-07-2022, 02:51 PM)Lotus Wrote: [ -> ]Lara,
More and more handofate reinforces his position of being a troll, he's trying to fat shame the forum, go look at reddit or Ainterol forum, there's overweight people there too, does handoffate rant there? doubtful because they probably banned him already. His makes up lies to his own liking. Let's point out his hypocrisy though. Pay attention to the dates here, he states he struggles to gain weight then struggles to lose weight. And when he struggles to lose weight he's taking a diet medication, does this make any sense? I think not. You'll certainly never grow breasts with taking diet medication. I don't believe you've ever shared your bmi?
Yep. Same shit time and again and now pushing it to "prove" things... Well good luck on that.
Diet meds and boob growth don't really mix well do they..
I don't remember if I had mentioned my BMI here much? I don't think so because its quite irrelevant for me, it has never applied to me well, "normal" range makes me super skinny. I can even prove that if some asshat needs proof, but I don't think I'll bother as its too much wasted effort. Btw the only thing with which BMI concerns me is GCS because all clinics have a BMI limit of either 30 or 35, when I get mine book, I have to fit into their criteria and it makes sense for having easy recovery. Otherwise I don't give rats ass about BMI.
By the way, this one's really gonna bite me in my ass, but I don't honestly even mind being a big on the heavier side. Mostly I have two concerns, to stay healthy and fit to keep on living active, and to reach my goals about body shape. Mainly thicker curves, but with slimmer waist and I think I know just the way I'm gonna get there. But do I mind being chubby, nope, I like it. This is going to piss of a lot of people, big lady who loves her size is an abomination right?
But hey, its the only way to get boobs?
lol. What a joke.
I understand that we are all different and have our own experience driven understandings. However, i reached the point were giving anytime to some has interrupted my calm and is just not worth it Someone posted some sound advice for those that have repeatedly shown they do not get manners. The site has a block function.
(12-07-2022, 08:56 PM)p_r_1974 Wrote: [ -> ]I understand that we are all different and have our own experience driven understandings. However, i reached the point were giving anytime to some has interrupted my calm and is just not worth it Someone posted some sound advice for those that have repeatedly shown they do not get manners. The site has a block function.
Yea and admin has the almighty banhammer which is now being called to action. Nobody needs to take any bullshit here. I've been here for several years and there has never been such a shit show before. Naive flame wars do not belong here.