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Eva,
You definitely sound feminine. I'm more open to the idea of voice surgery after your positive experience. Thanks for posting the details of your transition journey for those of us who are heading in the same direction as you or thinking about it. It has been very helpful to me.

Hugs,
Clara
Hi Eva,
OMG, you've got me thinking. Should I, or shouldn't I? Have voice surgery, that is. It sure has worked for you.

Hugs,

Clara Smile
Hi Clara thanks, Im not sure I hear it but Im just gonna have to take yours and others word on it I guessBlush I mean it does work fine for me in person even though I get massive dysphoria when Im with cis women and I try to keep up with their voices Sad Its ALL just so easy and NATURAL for them and Ive been cursed... I wont give up now though, there is no other way for me....

I was reviewing my progress and It seems very close to my old high effort "trained" voice but there is NO great effort nowBig Grin When its really clear and strong I can raise it with the same muscles I used to use and really get it up there Cool

Still Im not happy with it and I dont know that I ever will be Rolleyes At least it has raised my pitch without going TOO high or sounding weird or un natural... Im still not fully healed yet either and Im holding out hope for my natural pitch to further increaseBig Grin

Im sure it will be much better in the end though and its definitely worth it as far as Im concernedWink

Your voice sounds like it needs more work to increase the pitch... Also I know its HARD you need to try to eliminate any male resonance Wink

Im not the one to coach you though because I think my old and even my new voice SUCKS... Its inevitable having lived for so long as "men" that its SO HARD to change into something that sounds feminine much less sexy LOL Rolleyes

I will continue to post here because I did get my start on NBE even though it wasnt long... I also like to keep a running journal going that I can look back on and see what I was thinking along the way... If I actually inspire or help anyone else here thats great too, but its really just for me Smile

I have a few posts in mind to update other things but first Im gonna go walk 4 miles in an hour... (HINT) Im NOT happy with my recent weight gain 3 months after quitting smoking Angry
OK so I finally downloaded a pedometer app to my phone so I can stop guessing about how far and fast I walk... I walk my entire 37 acre fence, usually twice with my dog... I figured it was 4 miles.... I was exaggerating a bit it turns out... Its 1.5 miles and it takes me about 30-40 minutes... Today was 1 hour and 15 minutes for two laps, 3 miles...

Since quitting smoking Ive been walking my fence at least 3 times a week in an effort to avoid weight gain.... Its unfortunately NOT working thoughAngry Id think all that walking would be enough to offset the decrease in metabolism from quitting smoking but unfortunately its not...

My weight loss WAS effortless and I hit a low of 146 lbs over the summer and I spent most of it at around 155 lbs.... Well thats history and Im now 20 lbs heavier AngryRolleyes I dont think Im eating more, maybe drinking a little more though... Some of it, maybe 5 lbs is in my tits and thats just fine, definitely some in my ass and thighs... TOO much on my gut thoughSad

I tried the Coolsculping in an attempt to kill those old manbelly cells that are still there.... Time will tell if that will work... I can say it HURTS like hell so hopefully something is gonna happen there... Right now though its still just really swollen but at least its going down.... 5 days in and its actually getting sorer Rolleyes The swelling is thankfully going down though, REALLY SUCKS to take an area you HATE and make it real sore and more than TWICE as bigBlush

If this doesnt work I will do lipo and fat transplant to hips and ass and even a tummy tuck... Id like to attempt diet and exercise first though along with this...

I donno if switching to E injections has anything to do with it because I quit smoking shortly after starting them.... I do have a suspicion that my E is just working a whole lot better now though and I probably could lower it a bit... Thats easier said than done though!!! I LOVE the stuff after allBlush

SO my next doctors appointment is on January 5th... I have only 3 shots left before then so SOON Im gonna have to decide how im gonna taper down for his test...

I havent decided yet but my next shot will probably be my last 17mg dosage then probably 10mg then a 7-8 mg shot 6 days before my test on New Years Eve... Im not looking forward to this at all BUT I also feel like Ive stalled a bit on this high dose and it might not be so bad to go lower...

I plan to try to just lower it cold turkey but I will ramp up the spiro and go back on PM if necessary.... I guess it will be interesting to see what my prescribed dosage tests at anywayRolleyes

The last time I tried to refill my E I couldnt get Delestrogen in the 10mg/ml 5ml vial ANYWHERE... I was told its on national back order until March 2015Angry I was able to get a more concentrated 20mg/ml 5ml vial at the local hospital though... That concentration is new to me and its harder to be accurate at my lower more frequent dose... So Ive been going with .4 ml or 8mg lately... Im gonna tell the doc Ive been going with .5ml or 10mg every five days just because its easier that way and I feel better....

The 20 mg/ml 5ml vial is a bit cheaper than the other stuff but I just switched my insurance carrier so who knows maybe they will cover all of the 10mg/ml 5ml vial concentration IF I can even get it....

So Thats gonna be interesting...

In the meantime Im looking into going with some herbal enhancement to compliment my NBE otherwise known here as "syn hrt" but bio identical E and P ARE "natural", cant get more natural than thatBig Grin

So today I started with 1 600mg Fenugreek capsule because I already have it and Im getting bored and ready for a change anyway LOL Im gonna research it but from memory its supposed to be good for cis womens boob growth and Im closer to a cis women hormonally and mentally than a "genetic male" so it might be interestingWink

SO 'The Program" has been 17-20mg IM injected EV every five days for a while now.... Throughout Im on Dutasteride daily... Spiro from 100-300mgs depending on mood... I doubt I even need the spiro anymore but it is supposed to block the conversion of P to T... Cant hurt anyway and I do admit to sometimes ramping it up in an effort to drop a few poundsBlushRolleyes And finally 100-200mg P cycled 1-2 weeks per month...

All thats gonna change soon though and there are other exciting things coming up as wellSmile
So only 4 days to go until I start my adventure out to Boston to consult with Dr Speigel in person for FFSCool

Im glad the weather here and there and everywhere is looking good for this trip so farWink

Im hoping to set a date in February with him if I like himSmile
Wow, good god woman you sound terrific. Wink

Anyways bumped to here, maybe you could try some daily fixes like lemon water, 1/2 an avocado for a few days, load up on some broccoli, leaf greens or even dandelion root to speed up some E metabolism. All that "endless" lol E is hanging around and clogging up those ER's (yes both of them).

Have you noticed spikes in temperment?, even at low total T levels?, you still have DHT rattling around in there that doesn't show up on the test, (the only way to know for sure is to have them test DHT), but so what, it doesn't matter does it?, lol. If you don't noticed biting someone's head off on occasion than all'so good. Rolleyes

You know it's a proven fact the T converts to E, so I suggest this for all mighty b00bie growth is let some T back in, you should have those receptors trained by now to convert via androstenedione and testosterone pathways. If anything I'd consider some pro-aromatase herbs and food promoters. But I know T is not a thing that doc's would even consider.

Oh, that and adding eggs. RolleyesBig Grin congrats on quitting smoking.
Hi THANKS Lotus, always a pleasure to see youBig Grin

Im WAY TOO LAZY to do greens and all that and thats pretty sad considering I dont even have a job at the moment Rolleyes I try to eat pretty good but I really do think a low carb and higher protein and fat diet would helpWink

YES I feel like I have TOO MUCH of a good thing right now, need to do something to clean out everything and reset the receptors... You will NEVER convince me however that T is good for me thoughHuh Its POISON as far as Im concernedRolleyes

Im open to reducing my E and changing things up for a while...

I LOVE the high E and ZERO T as far as my mind goes though, Im afraid I might get nutty reducing my E and like I said I quit T permanentlyTongue

As far as quitting smoking goes??? I dont miss buying them or the chain smoking but I can say I really dont feel all that much better without themRolleyes

I just cant do it for a while while I get all these surgerys done....

Shoot, and here I thought you were independently wealthy (which you are) lol Big Grin, or as the comedian Ron White would say:

$$ L-O-A-D-E-D $$ TongueBig Grin

Always a pleasure too.

Oh btw I forgot to tell you, estrogen travels (T too) with SHBG-sex hormone binding globulin, then it detaches to grab onto E receptors so to speak, then it has to be a match for that hormone or it doesn't get activated, I say this because there's an awful lot that doesn't get activated, and it competes with all the xeno's too, which can foul up those receptors. Anyways, I'm bound to lunacy trying to find that reverse pharmacology formula that gets in the back way,(which ironically there is a backdoor pathway) wish me luck huh. Rolleyes
TOO much worry aboutBlush Just gimmie my shotBig Grin

Im just gonna taper down for the next test and hopefully shock the systemTongue

One 600mg Fenugreek a day for now but Im gonna probably stop that for my next test in two weeks because I dont want high prolactinWink

I will likely be going back on PM for a while thoughWink