Breast Growth For Genetic Males

OK so back to the program

WOW

I donno if its just because Im done with the antibiotics/ibuprofen from my dentist... Going off that DEPRESSING "antidepressant" quit smoking aide Zyban.... Or just my body finally getting all recalibrated to run without nicotine....

Or maybe its the switch to EV from EC, whatever I feel GREAT, I mean REALLY great

Its been a roller coaster since I got on these injections and the EC was a HUGE disappointment to me.... I am convinced it is metabolized differently (and not in a good way) compared to good old straight 17B E2, or EV... I also think the nicotine interferes with EC big time, a lot more than straight E2 or EV...

Anyway back to the WOW, I LOVE EV injections!!!

WOW my tits are on FIRE, burning up and not just them its everywhere, my whole body... Im practically a walking involuntary orgasm Im on the edge most of the time without doing anything...
If I massage/play with my tits its SO close to having an O just from that... Really gone well into the next level there and I LOVE IT!!!

Yea Im still doing real good 4 days after 20mg EV shot

Supposed to inject tomorrow... 10 days until my next blood test, probably go with 7mg delestrogen then 4mg Delestrogen 5 days later 5 days ahead of my lab test....

Then hopefully its all good and I think it will be 10mg every 5 days instead of 7mg assuming my doc keeps it all the same...

Fuck, that seems as good a place to start as any here

First I guess I should say that Im STILL not smoking and its nearing a month after 31 years STRAIGHT continuous non stop HEAVY smoking

GREAT!!! You say??? Well Im NOT real happy about gaining 12 lbs on a 150 lb frame in less than a month

I DONT miss buying them OR even really smoking them...

Anyway It turns out my doc did do a complete test last time... I got the call Ive been dreading

From his nurse.... "Your E tested pretty high at 490 blah.... Your T was "very low at 6 out of a normal female range of 8-60" Your complete panel was "perfect"

OK SO WHATS THE PROBLEM??? Well your T is very LOW and E is very HIGH... FUCK!!! LOL REALLY??? Thats THE fucking GOAL here honey!!! MALE TO FEMALE, we aint fucking around here

I was really surprised when she tried telling me my T was TOO LOW!!! I mean I think she needs reminding here that this aint some fucking dress up game.... This is REAL...

"SO Im elated to hear that T number, E sounds REAL good to me whats the problem???" Well blahh, "E should be under 200, blah" Well according to WHO??? And WHY??? AND for who, a young GG??? "How about to feminize an adult (male unfortunately) body"???"Not my decision, Ill tell the doc your concerns" she says....

So TAPER time, 7mg shot on 10-10... Then I only a get puny 4mg shot on 10-15 then 5 LONG days until "THE TEST".... Then that same day a 10mg shot at least , and then at least 10mg every 5 days regardless of what the doc says or where "levels" are... I have my own supply but I need a doc to "document" and write the supporting letter to go with my shrinks when its "time"....

Had to go with extra today with a little gel and a 2mg Estrofem, to help take the edge off the E crash... Im gonna have a shitty week ahead of this test though, to make SURE its LOW.... Got a couple of days of HELL and back planned with the Periodontist anyway

Id normally just do my own thing and tell the doc to deal with it or I'll just find another doc... BUT he is a very highly regarded local GYN and I WILL need one some day I KNOW now without a doubt...

Congrats on quitting smoking eva, i went cold turkey myself about 2 years ago after over a decade, i can now have the occasional one without the risk of going back to it, more a mind thing for me now, i limit it to holidays or xmas/new year though, what unit of measurement are they using for the e readings eva? i picked up an nhs bloodtest sheet today and the range they want me in is 200-600 pmol/L for e and 3 nmol/L for t

Thanks Bobie, its really been amazingly easy for me to just quit...

E is pg/ml and T is ng/dl... Id be at 1798.42 pmol/L Not sure on T but i dont need a test to know there is NONE pretty much

Thats according to this calculator... http://www.endmemo.com/medical/unitconve...radiol.php

That E number is 5 days after my shot, Im sure its much higher right after the shot...

Only gonna get a 4mg shot tomorrow going into my test on the 20th...

If you want to play "guess my E level" Im gonna say it will be 211 pg/ml for the test and probably 2000 pg/ml the day after a 20mg shot

Well that PM I still have left is coming in handy it seems, I remembered it wont show up on a test for E

Ive been dreading this E crash but so far a bit of PM seems to be tiding me over... 2000mg so far today and it did seem to get my boobs buzzing a bit, probably go with 3000mg today and for the rest of the weekend....

So its all good and I should test lower for E on Monday and hopefully put my docs mind at ease... Then I will be back on good high dose injections and probably cut the spiro down to 100mg if my T comes back cratered again... I might actually try the 7mg every 5 days script If I still test high after trying to taper it off... Im hoping the doc is gonna be ok with higher E levels than "the guidelines".... Im thinking at least 10mg every 5 days would be about right and Im gonna tell him that but I doubt he is gonna agree with me.... I will make him work for his $$$ and explain exactly WHY its a bad thing for me to have LOW T and HIGH E... Im looking forward to that actually, I really do like him anyway =)

Im also gonna tell him I want 100mg P daily, I seem to really do OK on no more than that, dont know why.... It seems to be the sweet spot regardless of E dose but with higher E I can tolerate higher P, just not for long...

I just want to get on a consistent program here and stick with it for a few months...

So I have an exciting trip coming up, I will be doing an in person consultation with Dr Zukowski in Chicago and hopefully setting a date for my birthday in January for FFS and rejuvenation... Im REALLY looking forward to this, I am NOT aging well after 31 years of heavy smoking/drinking... I NEED some help there, Im sure he will do a nice job Im considering doing "body work" at the same time... Lipo/ass/hip fat transplant and tummy tuck, kinda scary thinking of recovering from all that at once though.... Also the E seems to be doing some of that all on its own lately

A few days after that I will be in Rochester NY having voice feminization surgery done... Thats kinda scary but very exciting at the same time.... I HATE my male voice (31 years of heavy smoking/drinking wasnt kind there either)... My (self) trained voice just sounds fake to me and its nearly impossible to use consistently... Sometimes even though I know its not that bad Im still afraid to really use it with friends and family that know the "old me"... Well there wont be any getting around that soon and Im REALLY hoping for a good result that sounds good to ME... Yea I want it to "pass" with others, especially on the phone where I rarely ever do now... But Im hoping just me actually liking it will really help in person where I do very well now but still get read... Im thinking a good voice can be invaluable in a situation like that..... Sure more training cant hurt but it seems to me that if your starting with a very deep voice, have the $$$, and nothing to lose except MAYBE never being read as male through my voice again... Why not... Id love to do "voice therapy", there just isnt any to be found here... In the meantime I have been really working on extending my high end... I have a range that goes from 45 Hz up to 350hz right now... I have been working on it anyway...

Its all booked, deposits made, flights booked ect... Now we just wait a bit more than 3 more weeks

That sounds exciting, Eva. I know that the need to pass is important. Have you talked to anyone other than Dr. Z? I'm leaning to Spiegel in Boston or Weiszweig in Chicago. Have you done a virtual yet? I strongly advise it.

Have you determined which type of larynx surgery will be done? It's going to be hard not to use your voice for two to three weeks until the healing is complete. Good luck, dear.


Clara

I did an online and a Skype consultation with Toby Mayer in Beverly Hills CA....

He recommended brow bone work... Ive heard he's not very aggressive there though and I am not scared at all of a radical change... Also of course a brow lift... A FULL face lift and I definitely agree with that!!! My wrinkles are getting REALLY bad... It seems like the more hairs I kill with laser and electro the WORSE my wrinkles and lines get Its gotten so bad lately I cant even wear makeup anymore, it just makes me look worse

Its strange to me just how fast these terrible wrinkles seemed to come out of nowhere AFTER I quit smoking

Anyway he also recommended chin reduction which I also agree with, lip lift and nose job with lip augmentation... At first I was kinda against all of that but now I can see that too... Also fat/tissue injections in the deep creases around the nose/mouth...

Problem is I really didnt like him much at all even though Im sure he's very good... He's got a reputation as being one of the best at noses....
I never really had a problem with my nose but I guess i can see how subtle changes would help feminize...

I really want a scalp reduction/advancement or whatever he can do to reduce the bald area on my front nonexistent "hairline"... If I live through all this I plan to start hair restoration soon afterwards...

I cant find much of anything bad about Dr Z and I actually love his whole Chicago guy persona... Only complaint Ive heard about him is the price and Im NOT too worried about that.. I just want it done right and done once...

So I want all of that at least and actually the sooner the better Im also not gonna fuck around and I just want an in person consultation after all the BS I went through to do the one with Dr Mayer...

Ive decided to do it next year though just because of tax implications... So I will do the voice feminization first....

Im unfortunately NOT really sure just EXACTLY what this voice surgery involves... I cant find much good or bad about this doc... He does seem very competent and there are few options here in the USA...

Im just gonna go for it, yes its scary as hell... This stuff is NOT for sissys

Thanks, Eva. I met Dr. Z and talked to one of his patients. He's rather forceful in his opinions about what you need in the way of FFS. I passed on Dr. Z mainly because he isn't craniofacial certified. If you need lots of forehead reshaping, like I do, you want that qualification in your surgeon.

I prefer a more conservative surgeon, personally. I don't want to change my looks so much as to soften my appearance by removing the male puberty influences on brow boss, nose, upper lip, and adam's apple. I can live with my jaw and cheeks the way they are.

Voice surgery is really risky and normally only recommended after voice training has not achieved your goals. At least look into the surgical technique your doc is going to use on you. I would be concerned about a visible scar on your neck and the long post-surgery restrictions that you have to adhere to religiously for optimal results.

Clara

You guys are freaking me out. Lol I'd be happy with SRS and a boob job.