[pom19]

Plus, there is danger in too much estrogen. For instance blood clots, strokes and heart attacks. Also, you have to be careful for too much strain on liver, pancreas and kidneys. That is why I am a firm believer in only using the amount that works and not to "ramp up" anymore than absolutely necessary.

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Thanks iaboy for mentioning this. <3 POM

[QTPiChrissie]

Im not taking whole bottles a day, just 4-5 pills spaced out over the day taken one at a time, usually before a meal. Should I stop this because of the risk of muscle spasms?
Is 2000-2500mg of PM an unsafe dose for a genetic male? Seems like thats what everyone else is taking

[Outsider]

Im not taking whole bottles a day, just 4-5 pills spaced out over the day taken one at a time, usually before a meal. Should I stop this because of the risk of muscle spasms?
Is 2000-2500mg of PM an unsafe dose for a genetic male? Seems like thats what everyone else is taking

I don't think the PM is the direct cause of spasms. From what I've read about PM it actually needs calcium to help you absorb it, so my guess is that the PM uses up your calcium, so spasms may occur because you may not be getting enough calcium or magnesium(helps you absorb calcium). Try taking a calcium tablet or drinking milk along with your PM.

2gm-2.5gm of PM isn't unsafe, from what I understand people on these boards are just saying that the body might not be able to use all the PM, and may become less effective at higher doses. The maximum effective dose probably varies a bit by genetics.

You should just try to find the minimum dose of PM that gets you effects.

[Lotus]

Im not taking whole bottles a day, just 4-5 pills spaced out over the day taken one at a time, usually before a meal. Should I stop this because of the risk of muscle spasms?
Is 2000-2500mg of PM an unsafe dose for a genetic male? Seems like thats what everyone else is taking

It's more likely not to work, there's a test called the LD50 which stands for (lethal dose @ 50%) calculates the highest dose which will cause death in 50% of a group tested, usually animal testing, (it was phased out though for animal cruelty). Anyways, PM tested safe. But that fact remains that it does cause other issues not fully understood. Its always been conventional wisdom to start slow, now we start to fully understand that high doses are ineffective, some members already know this and have adopted into their program.

Chrissie, resisting the temptation to press the accelerator is going be difficult, again, think long term and do it the right way, 1000mg to start. Adding the anti-androgens and massage/diet/fitness is a good place to start.

[pom19]

I agree with Lotus. POM

[GamerGurl]

Don't worry yourself, I understood it to be a razz PBTHHHH

As for Lotus, You need to model a swimsuit for us, I have a feeling you'd put the old Baywatch series to shame haha!

[The First Aria]

Well, if you remember a couple of weeks ago, I said he had problems getting thru doors w/out slamming door on them. LOL. Wish I had that problem. Oh well, maybe later. Eh?

[Lotus]

Well.......

If I can pull this off someday then I'd consider it. but thanks gamer.





Btw, a "zerbert" is a raspberry!, ia here's something for yah, I posted a few months ago but so what, it's hysterical.

First raspberry
https://youtube.com/watch?v=VmZFKF-qdN0

About as funny as this, rotfl. it's gotta be Bruce Lee approved.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=9ZldUA3Qt8Y

[pom19]

You are so bad Lotus. You pumped up my T so high by these pics that I have to take 10,000 grams of PM to cool me down.

[The First Aria]

LOL Pom.... I especially love the 2nd U tube one. He is HORIBLY funny. Leave it to Lotus to have the sickest mind, next to mine of course.. heheheehhe