[Beverley50]

Bev that sounds a lot better to me and more stream lined. The PM by it's self helps to depress T levels and I think you will be much better off. If I use to much of the fenugreek and saw palmetto I get a upset tummy.

Yep you sound more like on your way now. Most of the time you will have pretty firm nipples, that is were I was after just 1 month on PM, I am now on month 4 fyi and I would say the breast buds were very firm and at their largest at month 3.

I think once you get to maybe stage 3 or 4 they may be less hard all the time and less itchy and less sore.

Just in my case to tell you my experiences somewhat.
I played a round for a year plus off and on with Natureday, Breast gums and teas but never PM. I had some growth and it would kinda go away if I stopped.

I started 4+ months ago with almond oil, and coconut oil massages 2-3 times a day and then added PM as well. Within 1 month it was like BAM from barely an A to a Full 38 A. So, after about a 2 week break from PM after 3 months at that point I needed a 38 B bra. I started up again and about 15 days into month 4 I noticed the buds were not nearly as hard or painful, but seem to spread over a larger area of the breast and the sides, inner and outer are much fuller. I still am a 38 b but at 21 days into month 4 I now feel each breast touching one another when I lay on my side. This just happened all of a sudden one night I noticed.

Also I can feel when I massage I can now feel the ducts and glands etc too. Way more than just breast fat.I think you will be posting about that soon as well! Real permanent breast tissue.

Yeah Cleavage... I am sure with all the priming you have done with the other herbs you should start to see some very good gains over the coming months.





I use the many of the same as you, extra calcium, magnesium, B vitamins, E, C, A and a complement of Amino Acids too + Biotin and Coconut oil massage in the AM and Lavender oil at night.

I am also doing a lot of the veggies that are cruciferous vegetables, broccoli, cabbage, and cauliflower, brussle sprouts etc too.

I like to have a bra on too for comfort and protection. Smarts when you bump the buds and it does help protect nipple soreness too.

Anyway not trying to hi-jack your thread just offer some of what PM and most of what you are on has done for me in a short 3+ months time.

Cant wait to hear more good news from you gal!

Happy Growing pains..

Nice response HB No, you're not hijacking anything. I appreciate every response. The longer the better. Info info info!

The funny thing is, when one is on a HRT program one tends to think that everything is changing fast and breasts are getting much bigger, and that you are becoming a beautiful swan, when in reality changes are a lot more subtle and boob growth is much slower than you think, and you are essentially the same person, however becoming slightly altered. Changes are often noticeable only to you. When I cup my breasts in my hands they really feel big and heavy (but compared to what? probably because I've been completely flat chested all my life with my chest bones showing above my nipples). When I look at myself in the mirror they don't appear THAT large, but beautiful none the less.

I suppose, to a degree, that I am experiencing what a girl must be going through during puberty, w.r.t. breast growth, sensitivity, body shape changes etc etc. (but obviously without the ovulation/periods that a biological female goes through). I can feel that there is slightly more fat around my upper butt, because when I sit down its like my bum pushes up (I can feel my belt line push up a bit). This is a noticeable difference to me. Other changes will probably still manifest themselves in the future, and I am looking forward to tell you about them. However at this time everything is just boobs boobs boobs, and the radical change there. I'm certain that the nightly coconut oil massage has played a big part too, because the skin around my breasts has become very soft and smooth, and since my skin is fairly elastic there is still a lot of space for further growth. Having said all that, I am probably no more than an A cup, if that. When I lie on my side I can cup my bottom breast and it fills up more than my hand full, and I can see the top breast sagging towards the one below, but they are still far apart. When I massage at night I can also feel the ducts, or whatever it is, like fiber tissue. The more I massage the more I feel this.

Cleavage OMG, how awesome THAT must be to experience, and permanently have.

Another weird thing that is happening to me now; when I open and walk through doors, or people are physically close to me, or when I open my car door to get in or out, or when I get in a subway train . . . it has become a natural response to protect my breasts with my arms, like creating a protective barrier by drawing my elbows in towards my chest to avoid being injured or touched. I also bump them more often, or maybe I have just become more aware that it hurts when I bump them, especially around the nipple area, and a natural instinct is to protect them. I mean they are technically further away from my body now, and more likely to hit things.

Currently I cannot go without a sports bra during the day. I HAVE to wear one, if only because my nipples are so erect and very sensitive. If I don't put tissue paper inside the bra to cushion them I'll go crazy from the rubbing and won't get anything done.

Anyway, I try and eat as healthy as I can too, lots of veggies, good protein, fruits and stuff, and laying off the Coke and sugary stuff. I've even cut down on red wine, which I love to drink every night.

Keep them coming

Bev