[pom19]

Well, if you don't want to fall off the cliff, then you've got to balance it. POM

[Lotus]

C'mon people, in past pages is a coupe of major breakthrough's for Genetic Male's NBE:

I'll do my iaboy and go -ppppppffffftttttttt

I know I know, it's complicated, free your mind to new thinking of how to grow breasts, then you start asking the right questions.

Trust me, I was a dumber than a doorknob pre-NBE dude lol. still am!

[Lotus]

Start asking questions like this:

What are the tissue-specific promoters of CYP19 expression?

Or

What regulates the hormonal factors of second messenger signaling pathways.

[Naomiko]

Pom; Thank you for the link. I was also checking red maca from "The Maca Team". Was looking at capsule option but 6000mg seems off somehow? Might go powder after all, in that respect both Nuts and Maca Team are similar. In that case, 9g to 14g once daily is proper dosage?

The Maca Team Capsules
The Maca Team Powder

Lotus; Thank you for your feedback! I looked into the FDA's concerns about HCG, seems their concerns are with the entire diet program as a whole. 500 calories a day doesn't seem healthy in the best of cases. I say that, but looking back the last few months, I haven't been eating more than 500-1000 calories a day (not on purpose mind you). When I start taking HCG drops again, I'll make sure I eat a little more than usual. If there's any issues or unwellness, I'll drop it from my regime.

[twinklepose]

Lotus, love your posts, but I feel blinded by science after reading all that. Can you translate for the layman (or woman!) please?

Also, which is best, white peony or reishi? Thanks for the link, but that page doesn't really explain which would be best to take.

Finally, what's this about sperm? Should we all be swallowing our own to help our programs?!

[Lotus]

Lotus, love your posts, but I feel blinded by science after reading all that. Can you translate for the layman (or woman!) please?

Also, which is best, white peony or reishi? Thanks for the link, but that page doesn't really explain which would be best to take.

Finally, what's this about sperm? Should we all be swallowing our own to help our programs?!

Noooo, that study isn't suggesting drinking the stuff, neither am I, lol. It has to do more with why aromatase is present in the little guys, I'll share more later and how it might help benefit NBE.

Reishi and WP are used for two different purposes, WP is for converting free testosterone to estradiol (estrogen) through an enzyme called aromatase. Relish is used for controlling DHT through another enzyme called 5 alpha redutase, and DHT is the strongest androgen.

If you have less interest in porn than its a good indicator that DHT is being controlled, also less competition with others.

On the other things I've described I'll attempt to translate as best as I can.

[twinklepose]

Thanks for your quick reply, Lotus! Glad I've not got to start drinking that!

OK, looks like I need both then. Have just ordered 300 caps of reishi from eBay. Anyone know of a UK stockist for white peony?

PS Lotus, is saw palmetto a waste of time in terms of NBE?

[Lotus]

Thanks for your quick reply, Lotus! Glad I've not got to start drinking that!

OK, looks like I need both then. Have just ordered 300 caps of reishi from eBay. Anyone know of a UK stockist for white peony?

PS Lotus, is saw palmetto a waste of time in terms of NBE?

I wouldn't say a waste of time, money maybe, although it's definitely your choice of which NBE products to use. Amazon is usually competitive on products and shipping fees.

[Lotus]

Regards to some new NBE tools (heck, throw in HRT while we're at it).

Although this research is out there, protocol's exist for a reason, safety is at the top of the list. So check with your medical professional first, get labs done and see if your healthy first and foremost.

The first thing I would say and its current wisdom that estrogen is present in the following tissues (adipose, kidney, thymus/immune system, skin, gut and muscle), so they're common targets of estrogen. The following is from posted research.

In males, testosterone is the major source of plasma estradiol, the main biologically active estrogen, only 20% of which is secreted by the testes. Plasma estrone, 5% of which is converted to plasma estradiol, originates from tissue aromatization of, mainly adrenal, androstenedione.
http://www.lef.org/magazine/2008/11/Stem...en/Page-04

[Lotus]

Plasma estradiol, the main biologically active estrogen, 20% is secreted by the testes.