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(25-06-2014, 05:46 AM)Lotus Wrote:  
(25-06-2014, 05:33 AM)Lenneth Wrote:  ah, well I'm not lacking growth, it is just going very slow, in fact the familiar sensations of it just started back in this week.
(last break was a month ago fyi)

the dht issue seems to just manifest in relentless unwanted hair

It could be that you have some really efficient (DHT) lol. In that case wouldn't conversion be the biggest benefit. Gawd, the possibilities!!!

Yeah I know wise guy just how to get it done...

Possibly, trick is getting the conversion going.

Possibilitys = ? DD's?Big Grin
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(25-06-2014, 05:46 AM)Lotus Wrote:  
(25-06-2014, 05:33 AM)Lenneth Wrote:  ah, well I'm not lacking growth, it is just going very slow, in fact the familiar sensations of it just started back in this week.
(last break was a month ago fyi)

the dht issue seems to just manifest in relentless unwanted hair

It could be that you have some really efficient (DHT) lol. In that case wouldn't conversion be the biggest benefit. Gawd, the possibilities!!!

Yeah I know wise guy just how to get it done...

Your battle lies with DHT (which you obviously already know), eliminate everything that is considered an AI, Aromatase Inhibitor.

Fit every possible Aromatase food group and forget Spearmint, go with WP or Rieshi, this is based on how I did, so this is just my opinion here. If someone has a better idea I'm all ears, and I know Pharma isn't an option for you.

http://www.webmd.com/vitamins-supplements/ingredientmono-905-REISHI%20MUSHROOM.aspx?activeIngredientId=905&activeIngredientName=REISHI%20MUSHROOM
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(25-06-2014, 06:02 AM)Lotus Wrote:  
(25-06-2014, 05:46 AM)Lotus Wrote:  
(25-06-2014, 05:33 AM)Lenneth Wrote:  ah, well I'm not lacking growth, it is just going very slow, in fact the familiar sensations of it just started back in this week.
(last break was a month ago fyi)

the dht issue seems to just manifest in relentless unwanted hair

It could be that you have some really efficient (DHT) lol. In that case wouldn't conversion be the biggest benefit. Gawd, the possibilities!!!

Yeah I know wise guy just how to get it done...

Your battle lies with DHT (which you obviously already know), eliminate everything that is considered an AI, Aromatase Inhibitor.

Fit every possible Aromatase food group and forget Spearmint, go with WP or Rieshi, this is based on how I did, so this is just my opinion here. If someone has a better idea I'm all ears, and I know Pharma isn't an option for you.

http://www.webmd.com/vitamins-supplements/ingredientmono-905-REISHI%20MUSHROOM.aspx?activeIngredientId=905&activeIngredientName=REISHI%20MUSHROOM

not necessarily not an option, but not the direction I really want to go either.

might give WP a try if I can get some.
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(24-06-2014, 09:44 PM)Lotus Wrote:  Larana, I think you'll have better results mixing PM extract and a carrier oil, (coconut oil maybe, if you don't mind the smell, lol).

(08-03-2014, 03:22 AM)Lotus Wrote:  Coconut oil-makes connective tissues stronger for that much desired softness and elasticity. superb antioxidant activities that neutralize free radicals and slowing down aging, aids in breast feeding, Coconut oil is nature's richest source of MCFAs."
http://www.breastnexus.com/showthread.php?tid=19832


Mixing capsules with an oil doesn't really work well imo, (yes I've tried it).

Wink

All right thanks, i have tried with 500 mg.than i won't try with higher dosage.Perhaps i use pm cream
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(24-06-2014, 09:44 PM)Lotus Wrote:  Larana, I think you'll have better results mixing PM extract and a carrier oil, (coconut oil maybe, if you don't mind the smell, lol).

(08-03-2014, 03:22 AM)Lotus Wrote:  Coconut oil-makes connective tissues stronger for that much desired softness and elasticity. superb antioxidant activities that neutralize free radicals and slowing down aging, aids in breast feeding, Coconut oil is nature's richest source of MCFAs."
http://www.breastnexus.com/showthread.php?tid=19832


Mixing capsules with an oil doesn't really work well imo, (yes I've tried it).

Wink

Yes, mixing extracts with oils will give you a product that you can use right away. In mixing powders with oils, you have to let it steep (shaking it occasionally) for at least two weeks before use.

Search the posts on booby batter/oil.

(24-06-2014, 07:11 PM)spanky Wrote:  DIM is an abbreviation for diindolylmethyane. It is a product of cruciferous vegetables (such as broccoli), and is believed both to help prevent cancer of various types and to regulate estrogen metabolism. It is also believed to be helpful in eliminating free testosterone, which contributes to prostate enlargement and cancer, perhaps as an effect of regulating estrogen metabolism. I learned all that through the google machine.

And on a related note, see: http://cancerpreventionresearch.aacrjour...3.full.pdf

BigDave
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(25-06-2014, 04:59 PM)s67bigdave Wrote:  
(24-06-2014, 09:44 PM)Lotus Wrote:  Larana, I think you'll have better results mixing PM extract and a carrier oil, (coconut oil maybe, if you don't mind the smell, lol).

(08-03-2014, 03:22 AM)Lotus Wrote:  Coconut oil-makes connective tissues stronger for that much desired softness and elasticity. superb antioxidant activities that neutralize free radicals and slowing down aging, aids in breast feeding, Coconut oil is nature's richest source of MCFAs."
http://www.breastnexus.com/showthread.php?tid=19832


Mixing capsules with an oil doesn't really work well imo, (yes I've tried it).

Wink

Yes, mixing extracts with oils will give you a product that you can use right away. In mixing powders with oils, you have to let it steep (shaking it occasionally) for at least two weeks before use.

Search the posts on booby batter/oil.

(24-06-2014, 07:11 PM)spanky Wrote:  DIM is an abbreviation for diindolylmethyane. It is a product of cruciferous vegetables (such as broccoli), and is believed both to help prevent cancer of various types and to regulate estrogen metabolism. It is also believed to be helpful in eliminating free testosterone, which contributes to prostate enlargement and cancer, perhaps as an effect of regulating estrogen metabolism. I learned all that through the google machine.

And on a related note, see: http://cancerpreventionresearch.aacrjour...3.full.pdf

BigDave

Thanks BigD, how have you been feeling?
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(25-06-2014, 05:02 PM)Lotus Wrote:  Thanks BigD, how have you been feeling?

Hi Lotus,

Hot and tired, I live in the desert after all. It's summer with temps up to 107° so far and the heat drags me down. COPD, etc. mostly under control. Now back into the heat and to work.

BigDave

P.S. Need to find a smiley that's sweating. Wink
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(25-06-2014, 06:07 PM)s67bigdave Wrote:  
(25-06-2014, 05:02 PM)Lotus Wrote:  Thanks BigD, how have you been feeling?

Hi Lotus,

Hot and tired, I live in the desert after all. It's summer with temps up to 107° so far and the heat drags me down. COPD, etc. mostly under control. Now back into the heat and to work.

BigDave

P.S. Need to find a smiley that's sweating. Wink

Well you be careful out there BigD, here's your smiley. [Image: smiley-vault-misc-112.gif]
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(25-06-2014, 05:02 PM)Lotus Wrote:  
(25-06-2014, 04:59 PM)s67bigdave Wrote:  
(24-06-2014, 09:44 PM)Lotus Wrote:  Larana, I think you'll have better results mixing PM extract and a carrier oil, (coconut oil maybe, if you don't mind the smell, lol).

(08-03-2014, 03:22 AM)Lotus Wrote:  Coconut oil-makes connective tissues stronger for that much desired softness and elasticity. superb antioxidant activities that neutralize free radicals and slowing down aging, aids in breast feeding, Coconut oil is nature's richest source of MCFAs."
http://www.breastnexus.com/showthread.php?tid=19832


Mixing capsules with an oil doesn't really work well imo, (yes I've tried it).

Wink

Yes, mixing extracts with oils will give you a product that you can use right away. In mixing powders with oils, you have to let it steep (shaking it occasionally) for at least two weeks before use.

Search the posts on booby batter/oil.

(24-06-2014, 07:11 PM)spanky Wrote:  DIM is an abbreviation for diindolylmethyane. It is a product of cruciferous vegetables (such as broccoli), and is believed both to help prevent cancer of various types and to regulate estrogen metabolism. It is also believed to be helpful in eliminating free testosterone, which contributes to prostate enlargement and cancer, perhaps as an effect of regulating estrogen metabolism. I learned all that through the google machine.

And on a related note, see: http://cancerpreventionresearch.aacrjour...3.full.pdf

BigDave

Thanks BigD, how have you been feeling?

Thanks BigD I check.

What it means Vegetarian capsules??
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This is interesting, it's edited with key points that relates to NBE, (always advancing NBE). Rolleyes

Less than 1% of the circulating testosterone is in a free form in males (less that 3% in females). Only when in a free form this hormone can exhibit its properties by connecting to the androgen receptors on the cell walls. Based on a study 14 to 50 per cent of the testosterone is bound to SHBG in males and 37 to 75 in females. It is worth mentioning that SHGB poses very high affinity for binding to testosterone. Therefore, changes in the SHGB levels noticeably influence the level of bioavailable testosterone.

Let’s discuss for a moment what exactly a testosterone bioavailability is. Other than SHGB there are two more testosterone-binding proteins, also called carriers. One of them is albumin. It is a low-affinity binding protein, thus testosterone bound to it is considered “bioavailable”. Albumin binds to testosterone in the range 45 to 85 per cent in men (25 – 65 in women). The third carrier is the cortisol binding globulin, which binds also with low-affinity to less that 1 % of the testosterone in circulation.
The free androgen index (FAI) indicates the amount of bioavailable testosterone. FAI is the sum of the free testosterone and the albumin and cortisol binding globulin. Or it’s the total serum testosterone minus the SHGB-bound testosterone.

It is now clear why we should focus our attention on the properties of SHGB. The levels of this binding protein increase when there is excess estrogen present.

Conversely, SHGB levels drop if the testosterone levels are elevated.

SHGB exhibits higher affinity to testosterone than to estrogen.

Testosterone is an estrogen precursor – it will convert to estrogen under the influence of the enzyme aromatase. Nothing that we don’t know so far. Here is where it gets interesting. Suppose that we have normal testosterone levels and we don’t suffer from any of the health ailments, which influence the SHGB levels. That means that SHGB levels are normal, too.

If more testosterone is converted to estrogen due to abnormal aromatase levels, the SHGB I will increase as well. SHGB, being more readily bound to testosterone, will leave us with excess estrogen levels in the system, which in turn will stimulate increased production of the SHGB protein from the liver. This whole process ultimately amplifies estrogen levels. Estrogen readily binds to the androgen receptors in cells thus leaving less opportunity for the free testosterone. Even more important, estrogen is the messenger molecule that signals the brain to decrease testosterone production.

Another thing of great importance is the fact that over 40 per cent of the SHGB protein circulates unbound in the blood stream in man (over 80 per cent in women), and albumin circulates unbound almost all of the time. Thus increase in the total testosterone levels does not produce any noticeable changes in the free testosterone levels unless there is a significant increase like the one seen after synthetic steroid hormone administration.


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