Elis has made a point which I then raised as a question ?
in another thread but on thinking about it now seems important enough too pop a thread up,

Elis says now after 18 months on PM she now feels

Girly all the time,

So perhaps the long term users may help here,

If after say 15 month-2 years we came off PM,

Have we feminised our brains ?
Have we just magnified perhaps the female wiring that was already there ?
Can we actually go back too male mode ?

Some of us and I think sfem was one, have always been in the middle of the inbetween brain scale and never felt a huge difference so if sfem came off , difference may be slight,

For some however the difference could be huge ?

This is a thought provoking thread I feel,

Look forward too your input all

Julie

Hello Julie,

Coincidentally, I also recently passed my 18 month mark on pm.

I don't try to separate my moods/personality traits into girly mode or male mode. As far as feminizing the brain, the biggest change I've had with pm (and spearmint to an extent) is scaling back my libido to a non-existent level. I feel I have always lacked a male ego. (Maybe that could be considered to be at least partial female brain wiring?) While I have a history of being a self-conscious person, I never have criticized myself for doing girly things or whatever. Save for a potential resurrection of my libidio, I don't have a male mode to go back to if I ever decided to stop taking pm.

Ha yes indeed Flame,

although I have broached this subject before and indeed have others,
Pansy x

my point this time is are the re-wire effects for life,

The argument on rewire rage , but think most of feel rewire happens , but I do not think and please feel free too correct me ,

No one has discussed whether its a temporary one or a fixed re-wire ?

Julie

My sister Saber always the voice of wisdom.
I started into this just wanting to grow breasts and found so much more.
I am ruffly about 1 month behind you Saber, this is going on my 18th month.
I have tagged along behind you like a little sister watching and learning.
I owe you a lot of thanks gurl!
From my own point of view, PM has rewired me in a way I do not have to dress all girly to feel all girly. (Does that make sense?)
I still like frills.lace and my favorite color is still pink that has not changed.
If I could not get PM anymore I would have to find something to replace it.
I do not want to ever go back to the pre PM Elisa.
As a matter of fact I want more of the same.

I came into this already basically being a girl... LOL. Nothing's changed there.

For those who experience this re-wiring effect, if one reads what they say, it is obvious the effect is temporary, as in it only lasts for as long as they continue to take PM. It is quite common to read things like they find the dose to grow breasts is less than the dose needed to maintain the re-wiring or the dose needed to grow breasts is about the same as the dose to maintain the re-wiring.

I'm one of the ones who does not appear to have had any mental effects, but I'm also not sure I'm getting much in the breast department either, and I've ramped up to 1000 mg 3x/day, but it has only been a month at that dose.

I came into this already basically being a girl... LOL. Nothing's changed there.

Abi I love how scientific you are in your posts! I feel like a girl inside too, but I can`t wait for any mental changes if there are.

I`d love to feel girly 24/7

Ha yes indeed Flame,

although I have broached this subject before and indeed have others,
Pansy x

my point this time is are the re-wire effects for life,

The argument on rewire rage , but think most of feel rewire happens , but I do not think and please feel free too correct me ,

No one has discussed whether its a temporary one or a fixed re-wire ?

Julie

I 'm not sure if there is anyone here who has taken pm long enough to be able to make an accurate assessment of how long lasting brain rewiring is. So long as others, you and I are taking pm for both breast growth/brain rewiring, I think this issue is irrelevant. Maybe several years later on in the future when we have achieved our full potential of breast development, perhaps then we can begin testing whether brain rewiring is a permanent or temporary change.

Judging from my experiences so far, I would favor the changes are more temporary than permanent. However, it's possible I have to take pm for a longer duration of time for the effects to become more permanent. It's really anybody's guess as this point I think.

My sister Saber always the voice of wisdom.
I started into this just wanting to grow breasts and found so much more.
I am ruffly about 1 month behind you Saber, this is going on my 18th month.
I have tagged along behind you like a little sister watching and learning.
I owe you a lot of thanks gurl!

I never had a little sister before.

Your welcome, and thank you for such honorary words!

From my own point of view, PM has rewired me in a way I do not have to dress all girly to feel all girly. (Does that make sense?)
I still like frills.lace and my favorite color is still pink that has not changed.
If I could not get PM anymore I would have to find something to replace it.
I do not want to ever go back to the pre PM Elisa.
As a matter of fact I want more of the same.

Yes, I think what you're saying makes sense. It sounds like pm has helped to cultivate a strong internal sense of femininity within your mind. In other words, you feel girly just by being yourself, as opposed to what you're wearing or what your appearance is.

Judging from my experiences so far, I would favor the changes are more temporary than permanent. However, it's possible I have to take pm for a longer duration of time for the effects to become more permanent. It's really anybody's guess as this point I think.


Yes, I think what you're saying makes sense. It sounds like pm has helped to cultivate a strong internal sense of femininity within your mind. In other words, you feel girly just by being yourself, as opposed to what you're wearing or what your appearance is.

We are all different, but leaving aside the full blown TS's amongst us, I feel ( no proof and not much hard evidence) that it comes back to the Vitale 'inbetweenies' thing. Without PM our brains crave femininity in whatever form they can get it ( clothes, make up, etc). With PM the brain cravings are satisfied by the phyto-hormone and the rest of it then drops back to a much lower level.
Logically, to my mind, dropping PM after a very long term regime, ought to cause the brain's need to express femininity to increase, almost like an addiction. Even short term, I think many of us have possibly experienced the beginnings of that?

Judging from my experiences so far, I would favor the changes are more temporary than permanent. However, it's possible I have to take pm for a longer duration of time for the effects to become more permanent. It's really anybody's guess as this point I think.


Yes, I think what you're saying makes sense. It sounds like pm has helped to cultivate a strong internal sense of femininity within your mind. In other words, you feel girly just by being yourself, as opposed to what you're wearing or what your appearance is.

We are all different, but leaving aside the full blown TS's amongst us, I feel ( no proof and not much hard evidence) that it comes back to the Vitale 'inbetweenies' thing. Without PM our brains crave femininity in whatever form they can get it ( clothes, make up, etc). With PM the brain cravings are satisfied by the phyto-hormone and the rest of it then drops back to a much lower level.
Logically, to my mind, dropping PM after a very long term regime, ought to cause the brain's need to express femininity to increase, almost like an addiction. Even short term, I think many of us have possibly experienced the beginnings of that?

All though I have only been taking PM for 11 months I have noticed my craving to dress in Ultra sexy clothing has diminished to be replaced with contentment being dressed in soft tops and Jeans that fit well,also my macho nature has gone and now are more relaxed and thoughtful even my darling wife prefers me like this,what I have noticed is when I cycle my dose 3 weeks on 1 week off the off week I am more irritable.