Bryony, FWIW, there are many reasons that people take herbs. If you look at the expounded benefits claimed for PM, you should be able to develope a "reason" that you took it, should your doctors' enquiry even get that far. I'm pretty sure you'll be OK. If you have any questions, while I'm no expert, feel free to ask. Patti

I agree with PattiJT. I don’t want anyone to get the impression that I think bending the truth is fine, on the contrary, I hold honesty in the highest regard. That being said, if I’m in this situation some day, I will probably explain that I’m taking phytoestrogenic herbs because they help ease my gender dysphoria anxiety (assuming PM helps me that way). The secondary reason I’d take them is because I want to grow feminine breasts but I wouldn’t mention that to my doctor. Although he wouldn’t know the entire truth, he’d know all the practical facts he needs as my physician and that the side effects are acceptable to me. My ulterior motives are irrelevant. If that’s not “true” for anyone else, I wouldn’t advocate using it as an explanation.

That's the kind of thing I'm planning if necessary - though it's more true now than it used to be!

Thanks for all the thoughts, folks - I've got to go away for a long weekend, so won't be around until Tuesday - some of these comments deserver a more thoughtful response.

I could just be worried about nothing - (I often am) - and it might just be a cholesterol test and B.P - but it's worth thinking out a plan now.

B.

I can see getting the mentally ill the help they need, but when I go to get antibiotics to help kill a flu or something, I don't care for a GP to pull a Sigmund Freud asking completely off the wall questions about things not only completely unrelated but none of their business...

(Went to in with Strep Throat recently, got asked what color my bedsheets were, and if I owned any weapons....I wish I was Joking...)

[sorry for the small rant]

While I was reading your post I was thinking the doctors were asking you questions like are you currently feeling suicidal/homicidal, not the color of your bedsheets.

Yes, there are some here who have had the GD issue lessened, or largely eliminated, by taking PM. However, for those that do, but throw in a few other herbs along with the PM, Let's be honest, you're doing it for the boobs. I have also seen, that some felt their GD issue was solved with 1 gram/day of PM. (Whoopee, I'm no longer a crossdresser, or no longer having trans thoughts)!! Then it became 2 grams to solve it. Then it became 3 grams. Where does that stop?? Or, has it also "become more about the boobs"?

I've had a difference experience with increasing my pm dosage. I suspect I need around 2,000-2,500 mg of pm daily to grow breasts, whether I need a higher dosage for the brain rewiring.

Long again. I'm a bit surprised to see this thread get so far without veering massively off-track. Take care, all. Patti

I feel like I opened up a can of worms with this thread. Instead of it being about others noticing your breasts, it's turned to how much you should/do tell others about your motives for taking pm.

The boobie fairy says you are all asking too many questions. You need to go take your aging prevention, cancer-risk reducing, hair improving, nail-strengthening, skin-smoothing pills and enjoy the butterflies. That's better.

The boobie fairy says you are all asking too many questions. You need to go take your aging prevention, cancer-risk reducing, hair improving, nail-strengthening, skin-smoothing pills and enjoy the butterflies. That's better.

Thank you sfem. Your statement brought a smile and a laugh out of me.

I can see getting the mentally ill the help they need, but when I go to get antibiotics to help kill a flu or something, I don't care for a GP to pull a Sigmund Freud asking completely off the wall questions about things not only completely unrelated but none of their business...

(Went to in with Strep Throat recently, got asked what color my bedsheets were, and if I owned any weapons....I wish I was Joking...)

[sorry for the small rant]

While I was reading your post I was thinking the doctors were asking you questions like are you currently feeling suicidal/homicidal, not the color of your bedsheets.

well, I did say they were real Off the Wall questions....needless to say I Ignored the questions.

& sorry for going off on a tangent...

& I also liked sfem's comment

I can see getting the mentally ill the help they need, but when I go to get antibiotics to help kill a flu or something, I don't care for a GP to pull a Sigmund Freud asking completely off the wall questions about things not only completely unrelated but none of their business...

(Went to in with Strep Throat recently, got asked what color my bedsheets were, and if I owned any weapons....I wish I was Joking...)

[sorry for the small rant]

Hahaha, when was the whole defining ideal of this country shifted from freedom to safety?

These two ideas are in direct opposition, and I know which I'd prefer.

And people wonder why I haven't been to the doctor in 15 years smh....

Anyways, on topic....My lab partner was over studying the other day and accidentally slapped my chest region lol....she was like "oh sorry I hit your boob....I mean man boob".

I'm not sure if I really got noticed or not , because she didn't seem to care much either way. It hurt though.

....she was like "oh sorry I hit your boob....I mean man boob".

I'm not sure if I really got noticed or not , because she didn't seem to care much either way. It hurt though.

That sounds like she has previously noticed and accepted them and just thinks of them as your 'boobs', then realised what she had said and was worried about offending you so tried to change it to something she thought would be more 'male acceptable'.

Glad it hurt, gives you reassurance doesn't it?!!

That sounds like she has previously noticed and accepted them and just thinks of them as your 'boobs', then realised what she had said and was worried about offending you so tried to change it to something she thought would be more 'male acceptable'.

That's exactly how I took it myself. Thought maybe I just wanted to take it that way though.

She's always swinging her arms around when she talks, with pens or pencils in hand. It's scary tbh, I try to guard them usually. Just glad she was empty handed this time lol