Ok so I talked about making a detailed post about my program so I'll try to make some sense to it here.
I have done some sort of cycle since the beginning, based on the 21/7 day where the fourth week is off week, either a complete break or with greatly reduced dosage. I'm not good enough being consistent which I'm trying to get better at all the time, I'm sure my results would be better that way and I could have avoided some of the side effects which I think are due to over dosing on PM few times. The symptoms being identical with too high estrogen levels I've read about here on BN. Along with leg cramps which I've had few times, but that's difficult to tell as I get same kind of leg issues from having bad posture while drumming some times. Playing extreme metal is very taxing on legs and correct technique is highly important to avoid injuries in the long run.
Currently I'm on PM, Ainterol XX anniversary brand. Fenugreek, its pure FG powder without any additives.(Tastes horribly strong on its own!) MSM also as powder, Vitamin D3 and melatonin. The latter two I was taking for other reasons and later found a correlation with breast growing benefits so ofc I keep them going. D3 for absorbing calcium and lack of sunlight during winter, melatonin for ease of falling asleep. I have suffered from insomnia and difficulty falling asleep for years, on and off depending on my activities etc. And lastly the latest addition is Progestrone Cream.
The PM cycle works in the following manner,
1st week, moderate dose from 1000mg to 1500mg per day. Typically on the first two or three days I take 500mg more than the rest to get a sort of a kickstart.
2nd week, high dose from 1500mg to 2500mg. I used to do the second week at 3000mg/day but experience and reading the forums has made it obvious that its probably too much so I try not to exceed 2000mg or 2,5k max.
3rd week just like the first so back to lower dose again.
4th week either completely off or 500mg/day.
The way I keep track of this is a diary, date, number of the day in the cycle, next I write all doses of everything. The idea is to make it so that the estrogen level peaks at around day 12, then slowly winds down towards the end to near nothing on the week four. Quite simple.
I'm yet to be decided about fenugreek if I should take it steadily or cycle it also. But in case I cycle, then its 1st and 2nd week off, 3rd and 4th week on, simples. The dosing is a bit difficult, but I take a teaspoon of the powder a day, mixed with water. I gulp it down in one go and then quickly flush the horrifying taste away with something else. MSM the same manner as FG, mixed with water, the dose is about 1,5 teaspoons a day along with one pill of D3 which corresponds to 400% of daily intake. (Its not dangerous, Lotus has the details of this lined out well in her thread.)
I take FG, MSM and D3 all in the evening just before going to sleep. Pm I take early in the morning, then late afternoon and just before sleep, making it so that majority of the dose is taken in the evening. As I can't keep taking one cap every few hours while at work ( I would forget it!), I take 500mg-1000mg in the morning in one go and the rest few hours apart or sometimes also in one go. For some reason this seems to be highly effective to take a higher dose at once and then keep longer hours in between, I have no facts for you to back this up, but when ever I take 1k twice a day for example, it seems like my boobs react very strongly. Melatonin I take 1-3 hours before sleeping, typically 1 5mg pill although those are pharma grade and I've ran out of them, now taking weaker 1,9mg ones which I can get over the counter.
Latest addition is progestrone cream, daily, about 1/2 teaspoon. I will cycle the are which to apply it according to the advice on the label and what's being said here in BN.
To top this off, I do daily massage with coconut oil, I was surprised to find I'm doing pretty much the lymphatic massage outlined in Freya's F cups thread and now I'm learning to do it correctly. I massage every possible chance I have, use the coconut oil when ever I can mess my hands and otherwise without. I also pump with noogleberry once every few days, typically two hours in one go. I'm using noogle less as time goes by mainly for it being restrictive on what I can do with the domes on. I don't do it daily to avoid getting blistered from over doing and letting my boobs recover. I use supple nips daily, preferably one hour a day or so, but I'm inconsistent. Also seeing what hormones can do with the nipples, I think the cups are just supplementary method. But since I've had fantastic results (From flat to about B cup!) with physical stimulation alone, I highly recommend it, specially massage as its active and you get familiar with your boobies and can spot changes right away. My idea is to try to get the best out of all worlds, supplementing herbs/hormones with physical stimuli. I believe noogle & massage have been the key for the roundess I've got so I highly recommend everyone to do all or some of this alongside other methods.
So there you have it by far, oh yea, I take 2-5 week break from everything once every two or three months. I've done it from necessity after starting to feel sick for taking too high doses of PM and to have a sort of hormonal reset from time to time. Always listen to your body and don't rush things, Don't do like I do, do like I say. lol.
I hope this helps. So far I can say its been highly efficient program, ten months on PM + others and about 14 months physical stimuli only before that has taken me from flat to a D cup. The real deal hard core budding started less than six months ago so I tend to think I'm barely tapping into my growth potential, but who knows. My goal is to get two to three sizes more to reach really busty look. The dreamy goal is to let them grow as much as they want, see it all the way through. I will keep on NBE for the foreseeable future, but I'm planning a switch over HRT, I just don't know the timing yet.
