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RE: I want total body feminization
June 12 2008 at 12:09 AM ATP (no login)
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I must say, it DOES make a difference in the brand of herbs you use.
Initially, I wanted to be cheap about it and got VitaminShoppe brand. But recently I've started taking brand named like Solgar and Nature's Answer and I must say, I am feeling more tingles and bursts of pain in my chest
I've only been on the program for close to a 5 weeks now. 3 weeks of which were on 'store brand' stuff.
So perhaps the herbs are just kicking in regardless of their brand? :/
Aside, from feeling tingles and pains (which aren't very often, but do occur), I also think my nipples have taken a more puffy appearance.
I'm still kinda amazed that I'm able to grow a beard, body hair,(at normal pace, not slower) and get erections though. LOL
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Fennel Fairy
(no login) Re: Store Brand Herbs vs 'Quality' Herbs June 12 2008, 8:11 AM
The most success I ever had with NBE was with fennel and fenugreek. I never bought the fancy capsules. I bought them as ordinary cooking herbs in BULK for a fraction of the cost that you pay for your stuff. And it worked just fine.
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Dee
(Login moonstruck61) Re: Store Brand Herbs vs 'Quality' Herbs June 14 2008, 1:59 AM
Beard won't stop, ever. At best it *may* grow a tiny bit slower but you'll never notice it except in your imagination. Body hair *may* lighten up a little. And the naughty thing, it will always be able to "rise to the occasion", like it or not. Herbals are too weak to affect those things in any significant way.
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ATP
(no login) So if herbals are too weak.... June 14 2008, 2:25 AM
To affect beard growth, body hair growth, and erections....how are they able to grow breasts then?
I guess if it is possible, I suppose I can have my pie and eat it too, as it were
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Dee
(Login moonstruck61) Re: Store Brand Herbs vs 'Quality' Herbs June 16 2008, 4:30 AM
Herbals will NOT affect those things, beard, body hair, erections.
What it does do it wake up the estrogen receptors in your breast area and cause growth to begin.
Herbals won't affect the other things, I promise you that.
To knock them out you would have to take toxic of them for a very long time and even so beard growth will not ever stop or slow or thin out.
Why do you think transsexuals go through hundreds of hours of electrolysis and laser to get rid of our facial hair? I'm taking massive doses of prescription injectable Delestrogen, thousands of times stronger than any herbals you could ever take and large doses of prescription anti-androgens. I've been chemically castrated. My testosterone levels were checked by a lab and is is around 17. Normal T level for a natal female is around 35 to 40. The lowest level for a male is 400 and at 400 doctors go into a panic and insist on pumping you up with testosterone injections so you don't start feminizing.
I'm waaaaay below the bottom limit for males and lower than most normal females. All natal females have a very small amount of testosterone in their system, various other glands produce it, it's needed by everyone.
Even with my extremely low T levels, facial hair is still a problem and I've spent a hell of a lot of money getting rid of it. Body hair is finally beginning to lighten up and go away though it will take a year or two more before my body hair is more or less normal for female.
And before going on HRT, I was hairy like a chimp.
It takes time and money and patience. And it all depends on where you want to take it.
Want to grow some little boobies that are easy to disguise and keep your male functions?
Herbals.
Want to fully feminize into a woman? See a doc, get a prescription, get used to sticking needles in your own ass every week and make an appointment with an electrologist and or laser specialist. Oh, and option two, you lose all male function. :-) It becomes a non-issue.
June 12 2008 at 12:09 AM ATP (no login)
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I must say, it DOES make a difference in the brand of herbs you use.
Initially, I wanted to be cheap about it and got VitaminShoppe brand. But recently I've started taking brand named like Solgar and Nature's Answer and I must say, I am feeling more tingles and bursts of pain in my chest
I've only been on the program for close to a 5 weeks now. 3 weeks of which were on 'store brand' stuff.
So perhaps the herbs are just kicking in regardless of their brand? :/
Aside, from feeling tingles and pains (which aren't very often, but do occur), I also think my nipples have taken a more puffy appearance.
I'm still kinda amazed that I'm able to grow a beard, body hair,(at normal pace, not slower) and get erections though. LOL
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Fennel Fairy
(no login) Re: Store Brand Herbs vs 'Quality' Herbs June 12 2008, 8:11 AM
The most success I ever had with NBE was with fennel and fenugreek. I never bought the fancy capsules. I bought them as ordinary cooking herbs in BULK for a fraction of the cost that you pay for your stuff. And it worked just fine.
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Dee
(Login moonstruck61) Re: Store Brand Herbs vs 'Quality' Herbs June 14 2008, 1:59 AM
Beard won't stop, ever. At best it *may* grow a tiny bit slower but you'll never notice it except in your imagination. Body hair *may* lighten up a little. And the naughty thing, it will always be able to "rise to the occasion", like it or not. Herbals are too weak to affect those things in any significant way.
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ATP
(no login) So if herbals are too weak.... June 14 2008, 2:25 AM
To affect beard growth, body hair growth, and erections....how are they able to grow breasts then?
I guess if it is possible, I suppose I can have my pie and eat it too, as it were
Edit Message Delete Message
Dee
(Login moonstruck61) Re: Store Brand Herbs vs 'Quality' Herbs June 16 2008, 4:30 AM
Herbals will NOT affect those things, beard, body hair, erections.
What it does do it wake up the estrogen receptors in your breast area and cause growth to begin.
Herbals won't affect the other things, I promise you that.
To knock them out you would have to take toxic of them for a very long time and even so beard growth will not ever stop or slow or thin out.
Why do you think transsexuals go through hundreds of hours of electrolysis and laser to get rid of our facial hair? I'm taking massive doses of prescription injectable Delestrogen, thousands of times stronger than any herbals you could ever take and large doses of prescription anti-androgens. I've been chemically castrated. My testosterone levels were checked by a lab and is is around 17. Normal T level for a natal female is around 35 to 40. The lowest level for a male is 400 and at 400 doctors go into a panic and insist on pumping you up with testosterone injections so you don't start feminizing.
I'm waaaaay below the bottom limit for males and lower than most normal females. All natal females have a very small amount of testosterone in their system, various other glands produce it, it's needed by everyone.
Even with my extremely low T levels, facial hair is still a problem and I've spent a hell of a lot of money getting rid of it. Body hair is finally beginning to lighten up and go away though it will take a year or two more before my body hair is more or less normal for female.
And before going on HRT, I was hairy like a chimp.
It takes time and money and patience. And it all depends on where you want to take it.
Want to grow some little boobies that are easy to disguise and keep your male functions?
Herbals.
Want to fully feminize into a woman? See a doc, get a prescription, get used to sticking needles in your own ass every week and make an appointment with an electrologist and or laser specialist. Oh, and option two, you lose all male function. :-) It becomes a non-issue.