[BuddingB]

Recently though, I started 500MG of PM + cream. PC twice a week and 1000MG of RR. And now there are changes. I look like I've been working out and nipples are usually pointing though my clothes. No substantial nipple change other than that, but there is clear growth and fat deposits. 

I've noticed a couple sideways looks at what are now AA's or close to it. At most I got to halfway between AAA and AA before. The RR, PC, PM combo clearly works even at a modest dose. 

I can't imagine being able to pull off more than an A for sure without it being obvious. So where to stop? Is it permanent? I don't have the body size to hide moobs. Genetics portend a lot of potential growth. 

Not sure how much further I want to go. But it works. And it feels great. And scary AF. 

P.S. Daily WP cap and spearmint tea is a stronger AA for me than RR alone. But daily WP caused some loss of function and an upset stomach. But it works for sure. RR is causing some minor shrinkage at this level. More PM + WP would be....a choice of sorts....for less libido.

My understanding, yes, once you have actual growth, as in, budding etc...it will be permanent. So you have to decide what you really want. I have read, that for some even after stopping, you might experience a little more growth. I guess we are all different, so that will just depend. For me, it was early enough, and just PM, so no further growth.

The more you add to improve or enhance the performance or effects of PM, and the likelihood of success...the more chance you will experience, as you have, some shrinkage or loss of ability and libido. Another thing to consider I guess, the trade offs. I purposely went with just PM, for that reason. Hoping to get some growth but maintain libido and function...which worked for me. The only loss was some morning wood, which I was fine with. At my age, waking up with a hardon all the time was getting "old" anyway...lol

I think what you listed above as your regimen now, will get you good results... and actually, as you say, it has started to. I don't think you need to go over 500mg of PM a day to get results, especially with your adding in the support or enhancing herbs. Some will say you need higher doses, but I think it's always best to go with the minimum you actually need to get the results you are after. Be kind to your liver...you only have one.