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regretting for life after using Saw Palmetto

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Glandular testosterone will be the same as any other testosterone and likewise reduce your own production in the testicles. Doing so also decreases other testicle functions besides testosterone, such as sperm. That's why I say to increase your own testosterone production instead. There are many studies on tongkat ali. Check pubmed.gov, or the tongkat ali wikipedia links to pubmed.gov if that's more convenient. And a wide variety of herbs that are studied to increase sperm count. Dunno anything about thyroid and adrenal extracts. If anything I'd think you'd want a hypothalamus extract for LH & FSH but that seems like a needlessly complicated way to get it. Then you may as well ask the doc for an HCG prescription but it's easy to overdose on that stuff and fry your balls if you're not careful, besides other sides. But actually I'd just pick up some TA and avoid all that. And watch out if he suggests clomid or another SERM because of all the estrogen-like emotional effects that you probably don't want.

Asking the doctor for an aromatase inhibitor to go with any testosterone is a nice suggestion too.

Balding is often believed to be the result of testosterone but it is actually the result of failing hormones. It is only from DHT testosterone. While T can convert to DHT, often your body goes to primarily DHT because your hormones aren't working right. The DHT is much stronger than regular testosterone so it makes a great substitute providing lots of T effects, but it comes with issues like balding. SP blocks the conversion of T to DHT.

And low T doesn't shrink your balls. If anything reducing your T would make your balls larger because it causes the body to respond by activating the balls more. Instead it's the other way around: shrunken balls causes low T.

Low estrogen/prolactin/testosterone => GnRH => LH + FSH => testicle activity including growth + sperm + testosterone => estrogen => prolactin => reduced GnRH production (from the last 3 increasing). It's a self-regulating loop. GnRH, LH and FSH are made in the pituatary. Also dopamine reduces prolactin and vis versa. Likewise lowering dopamine increases prolactin and vis versa. And T can also become DHT which is a stronger form of T but it is also associated with balding, acne, etc. HCG imitates LH. Cholesterol becomes DHEA and DHEA gets converted into the other hormones in the testicles. Here's a bajillion pictoral sources for support: https://www.google.com/search?q=map+hypothalamic+gonadal+axis&biw=853&bih=460&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=o50TVMrRBsHB8QHM2YCADQ&ved=0CB0QsAQ

Tongkat ali increases GnRH by blocking estrogen and prolactin in the pituatary. Zinc is essential for a variety of testicular functions. B6 is essential for a variety of hormonal conversions. Maybe you're missing something else and none of these will work, but adding whatever source of T is only going to shrink your balls more.
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regretting for life after using Saw Palmetto - by sp2000 - 11-09-2014, 04:12 AM
RE: regretting for life after using Saw Palmetto - by Lotus - 11-09-2014, 04:27 AM
RE: regretting for life after using Saw Palmetto - by HeroinFox - 11-09-2014, 05:30 AM
RE: regretting for life after using Saw Palmetto - by surferjoe2007 - 11-09-2014, 07:04 AM
RE: regretting for life after using Saw Palmetto - by Scotti - 11-09-2014, 09:43 PM
RE: regretting for life after using Saw Palmetto - by wishinandhopin - 11-09-2014, 10:35 PM
RE: regretting for life after using Saw Palmetto - by wishinandhopin - 11-09-2014, 10:41 PM
RE: regretting for life after using Saw Palmetto - by sp2000 - 12-09-2014, 04:58 AM
RE: regretting for life after using Saw Palmetto - by Lotus - 12-09-2014, 06:21 AM
RE: regretting for life after using Saw Palmetto - by surferjoe2007 - 12-09-2014, 06:52 PM
RE: regretting for life after using Saw Palmetto - by Candace - 12-09-2014, 07:03 PM
RE: regretting for life after using Saw Palmetto - by wishinandhopin - 12-09-2014, 05:33 AM
RE: regretting for life after using Saw Palmetto - by sp2000 - 13-09-2014, 01:32 AM
RE: regretting for life after using Saw Palmetto - by surferjoe2007 - 13-09-2014, 01:56 AM
RE: regretting for life after using Saw Palmetto - by HeroinFox - 13-09-2014, 08:54 AM
RE: regretting for life after using Saw Palmetto - by surferjoe2007 - 13-09-2014, 01:46 PM
RE: regretting for life after using Saw Palmetto - by sp2000 - 14-09-2014, 12:18 AM
RE: regretting for life after using Saw Palmetto - by surferjoe2007 - 14-09-2014, 04:50 PM
RE: regretting for life after using Saw Palmetto - by HeroinFox - 14-09-2014, 10:26 PM
RE: regretting for life after using Saw Palmetto - by sp2000 - 19-09-2014, 03:49 AM
RE: regretting for life after using Saw Palmetto - by elainecd - 19-09-2014, 03:49 PM
RE: regretting for life after using Saw Palmetto - by MonikaT - 19-09-2014, 04:43 PM
RE: regretting for life after using Saw Palmetto - by surferjoe2007 - 20-09-2014, 02:25 AM
RE: regretting for life after using Saw Palmetto - by MonikaT - 20-09-2014, 07:08 PM
RE: regretting for life after using Saw Palmetto - by sp2000 - 20-09-2014, 12:03 AM
RE: regretting for life after using Saw Palmetto - by surferjoe2007 - 20-09-2014, 07:15 PM
RE: regretting for life after using Saw Palmetto - by Sullivan - 23-09-2014, 08:49 AM
RE: regretting for life after using Saw Palmetto - by sp2000 - 24-09-2014, 03:48 AM



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