[phaedra]

Hi everyone! I hope it is ok for me to post here. I thought maybe those of you who were born male might be able to tell me some about my situation. Read:
Hi everyone. I was born female and want to stay female, just to clarify, I don't want my male hormones to throw anyone off. I have PCOS and I am told my only imbalances are high DHEA (three times what it is supposed to be), Insulin resistance and I don't ovulate regularly, so I would assume that my estrogen is high in ratio to progesterone.
I also feel like I may have a thyroid block due to high estrogen resulting in hypothyroidism. I don't know about the thyroid thing for sure, so let's just leave that part out of the equation and you can address it separately if you want to. I'm going to post my thread under a few categories, because I really need all of the advice I can get.
Anyway, I have tuberous breasts that are less than an AA cup and probably less than an AAA, but I have never seen the latter, so I'm not sure. They are really bad, though.
Does anybody know why this happened to me? I feel like is must be the DHEA. I have black hirsutism and I am naturally blonde. I also have acne and hold all of my weight in my stomach. If I am able to lower my DHEA, do you think my body will start accumulating fat in feminine areas such as my butt and breasts? Do you think my breasts will bottom out with the DHEA lowered?
What kind of herbs should I take? All of the usual seem bad for my situation, because they all seem to raise or act like estrogen which I have too much of and too much turns into male hormones which I definitely do not want! Does Goat's Rue really raise estrogen? Does Saw Palmetto lower DHEA or only testosterone? Does it raise estrogen? Does anything in this world lower DHEA? It seems everything only lowers testosterone!
I really don't know much of anything about this, so please inform me all that you can.

HI luv!! First off, don't ever be discouraged!! The thing I've noticed around here is mind OVER matter - believe that you ARE growing your breasts larger, and you inevitably will! =]

First off, I'm not too sure what DHEA is... some insight please?

Second, if you are E-dominant, & have taken Birth control before, or are still on some kind of bc, I recommend Depo Provera Progesterone Only -its a birth control Shot you get every 3 months... maybe this will help balance out all that estrogen in you... i was also E-dom & have been on the shot for about 1 & 1/2 months ...i think its too early to tell if its leveling me out or not, but we'll see =]

Look into getting a Noogleberry (NB)... they may be pricey (not sure about your income), but I will swear by NB. it has helped my boobs become rounder, and closer together -- if you don't want to mess w/ herbs because of your hormone levels right now, just start noogling to "awaken" your boobies!! =D

since you say you hold all your weight in your stomach, your cortisol levels must be high ???? cortisol is a hormone thats EVIL!!!! & packs on the fat mainly in the abdominal area. don't stress out so much baby doll!! xoxx (i know easier said than done)

also, MASSAGE & DO HYPNOSIS/AFFIRMATIONS!!!! these are seriously somewhat annoying (to me lol), but I'm telling you, they WORK. so many people on here have swore by them. & i myself am noticing a difference.
i massage my stomach, back, and arm fat into my breasts. My arms & back fat are seriously getting more toned, and i swear I'm noticing my tummy fat is making its way up towards my breasts - my tummy fat used to be below my waist, but now a lot of it is going above my waist, so I DEFINITELY KNOW that this massaging thing is working (i massage w/ coca butter lotion for about 5-10 min before noogling; got the lotion @ walmart.)

ANNYYYWAYYSSS i hope i gave you some hope?????
please remember to be kind to yourself, and stay positive! I know its hard, especially when things take forever to go your way, etc. but patience is KEY, especially with breast growth !!

MUCH LOVEE HUN!!!!!!! XXOXOXOXO

Thanks for all of the positive encouragement.
DHEA is an androgen which causes the same symptoms as testosterone. I'm sure this is the main reason I'm screwed.

As far as "mind over matter" I don't really think that helps at all. I believed for many years that I would surely develop before I was 18 and I never did. It really doesn't matter how you feel about it.

I have tried massaging before and it's difficult and it doesn't work at all. It's difficult, because I have no under-boob to massage. It doesn't make my breasts fuller or swell at all.

Thanks for all of your kind words, and I don't mean to shoot you down. I'm just hoping if anyone sees this that those things haven't worked for me yet and I need something new.

Also, I don't think noogleberry would work for me, because I'm very sensitive to bruises/busted blood vessels and I have very little to offer which means the pulling would be really sever/intense.

I need a better way! Someone please help!

As far as my imbalances go, I feel like I should work the same way as a male. Although I do have female amounts of estrogen I have hardly any progesterone. Plus, with the DHEA being so high it suppresses the estrogen from working on my breasts. So then why is it if I were to lower my DHEA I couldn't reasonably expect to grow breasts at my age (22)? I'm not saying anyone here said that I couldn't expect to grow my breasts, but that is what I'm finding with women in my situation. Someone show me a woman other than Anastasia who was truly able to have success with growing/correcting shape moderate to sever tuberous breasts! I haven't found a single woman anywhere on the internet! No offense to Anastasia but compared to myself and similar girls it offends me and makes me feel invalid that she classifies her before as tuberous. I'm not saying she wasn't tuberous, I'm just saying it hurts my feelings, because she was really well off to be tuberous, I think.