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RE: Anti-Androgens - ErinMichelle - 03-06-2014

(28-05-2014, 01:18 AM)spoked451 Wrote:  
(27-05-2014, 04:38 PM)Lotus Wrote:  3 drops White Peony every day----> for once or twice? 200 ml=7-8 oz about?

The dropper can hold about 40 drops, so 2-3 x daily of the dropper full of the 40 drops mixed in with 7-8 ounces of water. (40 drops is roughly 1-2 tablespoons)

The suggested dose on the Iowa Select Herbs bottle says...
40-60 drops (1teaspoon/5ml)
2 to 3 times a day in juice or water.

but then that's what it says on all of their bottles so go figure.

Has anyone tried WP sublingually? I'm interested if the doses would be less this way since it wouldn't need to pass through the liver.

RE: Anti-Androgens - spoked451 - 03-06-2014

(03-06-2014, 01:40 PM)ErinMichelle Wrote:  Has anyone tried WP sublingually? I'm interested if the doses would be less this way since it wouldn't need to pass through the liver.

I try to do my extract that way, but the best I've been able to do is try to let it sit there and resist the urge to swallow for as long as possible. Of course going that route you don't have to use nearly as much. Depending on what it is, it can be 3-4x more potent, that is if what you're taking sublingually is a good candidate for absorption via that method.

Lotus has done an outstanding job at explaining that.



RE: Anti-Androgens - Lotus - 04-06-2014

(03-06-2014, 05:02 PM)spoked451 Wrote:  
(03-06-2014, 01:40 PM)ErinMichelle Wrote:  Has anyone tried WP sublingually? I'm interested if the doses would be less this way since it wouldn't need to pass through the liver.

I try to do my extract that way, but the best I've been able to do is try to let it sit there and resist the urge to swallow for as long as possible. Of course going that route you don't have to use nearly as much. Depending on what it is, it can be 3-4x more potent, that is if what you're taking sublingually is a good candidate for absorption via that method.

Lotus has done an outstanding job at explaining that.

Considering the alcohol content, sublingual is gonna be hard to do. And, if you do try it, the stinging you'll get might be hard to bear. Take a look at this, in liquid extract its getting released in a fraction of the time compared to capsules.

Thanks Spoked451,

(09-03-2014, 11:02 PM)Lotus Wrote:  
General averages of rates/ratios when consuming herbs



Q-How long does a capsule take to dissolve?

A-Typically the average is up to 20 minutes, some sources have at 5-10 minutes while others say 20-30 minutes. Extracts 1 to 4 minutes

Q-What are typical absorption results?

A-For skin application- 60%

A-Liquid- 98%

A-capsule- 10-20%

Q-What is the capsule to extract ratio?

A-20 to 1, meaning it would take 20 capsules to = 1 teaspoon of extract



Q-When is the best time to take an herb?

A-In general herbs are best taken on an empty stomach

http://www.breastnexus.com/showthread.php?tid=19863



RE: Anti-Androgens - ErinMichelle - 05-06-2014

(04-06-2014, 12:10 AM)Lotus Wrote:  
(03-06-2014, 05:02 PM)spoked451 Wrote:  
(03-06-2014, 01:40 PM)ErinMichelle Wrote:  Has anyone tried WP sublingually? I'm interested if the doses would be less this way since it wouldn't need to pass through the liver.

I try to do my extract that way, but the best I've been able to do is try to let it sit there and resist the urge to swallow for as long as possible. Of course going that route you don't have to use nearly as much. Depending on what it is, it can be 3-4x more potent, that is if what you're taking sublingually is a good candidate for absorption via that method.

Lotus has done an outstanding job at explaining that.

Considering the alcohol content, sublingual is gonna be hard to do. And, if you do try it, the stinging you'll get might be hard to bear. Take a look at this, in liquid extract its getting released in a fraction of the time compared to capsules.

Thanks Spoked451,

(09-03-2014, 11:02 PM)Lotus Wrote:  
General averages of rates/ratios when consuming herbs



Q-How long does a capsule take to dissolve?

A-Typically the average is up to 20 minutes, some sources have at 5-10 minutes while others say 20-30 minutes. Extracts 1 to 4 minutes

Q-What are typical absorption results?

A-For skin application- 60%

A-Liquid- 98%

A-capsule- 10-20%

Q-What is the capsule to extract ratio?

A-20 to 1, meaning it would take 20 capsules to = 1 teaspoon of extract



Q-When is the best time to take an herb?

A-In general herbs are best taken on an empty stomach

http://www.breastnexus.com/showthread.php?tid=19863

Thanks Spoked451 and Lotus

RE: Anti-Androgens - undecided - 05-06-2014

(04-06-2014, 12:10 AM)Lotus Wrote:  
(03-06-2014, 05:02 PM)spoked451 Wrote:  
(03-06-2014, 01:40 PM)ErinMichelle Wrote:  Has anyone tried WP sublingually? I'm interested if the doses would be less this way since it wouldn't need to pass through the liver.

I try to do my extract that way, but the best I've been able to do is try to let it sit there and resist the urge to swallow for as long as possible. Of course going that route you don't have to use nearly as much. Depending on what it is, it can be 3-4x more potent, that is if what you're taking sublingually is a good candidate for absorption via that method.

Lotus has done an outstanding job at explaining that.

Considering the alcohol content, sublingual is gonna be hard to do. And, if you do try it, the stinging you'll get might be hard to bear. Take a look at this, in liquid extract its getting released in a fraction of the time compared to capsules.

Thanks Spoked451,

(09-03-2014, 11:02 PM)Lotus Wrote:  
General averages of rates/ratios when consuming herbs



Q-How long does a capsule take to dissolve?

A-Typically the average is up to 20 minutes, some sources have at 5-10 minutes while others say 20-30 minutes. Extracts 1 to 4 minutes

Q-What are typical absorption results?

A-For skin application- 60%

A-Liquid- 98%

A-capsule- 10-20%

Q-What is the capsule to extract ratio?

A-20 to 1, meaning it would take 20 capsules to = 1 teaspoon of extract



Q-When is the best time to take an herb?

A-In general herbs are best taken on an empty stomach

http://www.breastnexus.com/showthread.php?tid=19863

Hmm, so in the long run, its better to try and get the liquid extracts. Not only may it work out less expensive, it will increase the absorbon rate of what we are taking.

RE: Anti-Androgens - Heather-H - 05-06-2014

(05-06-2014, 11:31 PM)Janet doe Wrote:  
(04-06-2014, 12:10 AM)Lotus Wrote:  
(03-06-2014, 05:02 PM)spoked451 Wrote:  
(03-06-2014, 01:40 PM)ErinMichelle Wrote:  Has anyone tried WP sublingually? I'm interested if the doses would be less this way since it wouldn't need to pass through the liver.

I try to do my extract that way, but the best I've been able to do is try to let it sit there and resist the urge to swallow for as long as possible. Of course going that route you don't have to use nearly as much. Depending on what it is, it can be 3-4x more potent, that is if what you're taking sublingually is a good candidate for absorption via that method.

Lotus has done an outstanding job at explaining that.

Considering the alcohol content, sublingual is gonna be hard to do. And, if you do try it, the stinging you'll get might be hard to bear. Take a look at this, in liquid extract its getting released in a fraction of the time compared to capsules.

Thanks Spoked451,

(09-03-2014, 11:02 PM)Lotus Wrote:  
General averages of rates/ratios when consuming herbs



Q-How long does a capsule take to dissolve?

A-Typically the average is up to 20 minutes, some sources have at 5-10 minutes while others say 20-30 minutes. Extracts 1 to 4 minutes

Q-What are typical absorption results?

A-For skin application- 60%

A-Liquid- 98%

A-capsule- 10-20%

Q-What is the capsule to extract ratio?

A-20 to 1, meaning it would take 20 capsules to = 1 teaspoon of extract



Q-When is the best time to take an herb?

A-In general herbs are best taken on an empty stomach

http://www.breastnexus.com/showthread.php?tid=19863

Hmm, so in the long run, its better to try and get the liquid extracts. Not only may it work out less expensive, it will increase the absorbon rate of what we are taking.

Janet, you have asked the very question that was on my lips. I need to be convinced though that the extract works better. For some unknown reason I have not experienced the same effects with extract against capsules.
My dear friend Myboobs seems to have found otherwise and this could be down to me using standard strength against Xtreme that Myboobs uses.

Janet, you are a cleaver girl and I would love to know what brand and strength you use.

Lots of love
Heather X


RE: Anti-Androgens - Lotus - 06-06-2014

(05-06-2014, 11:31 PM)Janet doe Wrote:  
(04-06-2014, 12:10 AM)Lotus Wrote:  
(03-06-2014, 05:02 PM)spoked451 Wrote:  
(03-06-2014, 01:40 PM)ErinMichelle Wrote:  Has anyone tried WP sublingually? I'm interested if the doses would be less this way since it wouldn't need to pass through the liver.

I try to do my extract that way, but the best I've been able to do is try to let it sit there and resist the urge to swallow for as long as possible. Of course going that route you don't have to use nearly as much. Depending on what it is, it can be 3-4x more potent, that is if what you're taking sublingually is a good candidate for absorption via that method.

Lotus has done an outstanding job at explaining that.

Considering the alcohol content, sublingual is gonna be hard to do. And, if you do try it, the stinging you'll get might be hard to bear. Take a look at this, in liquid extract its getting released in a fraction of the time compared to capsules.

Thanks Spoked451,

(09-03-2014, 11:02 PM)Lotus Wrote:  
General averages of rates/ratios when consuming herbs



Q-How long does a capsule take to dissolve?

A-Typically the average is up to 20 minutes, some sources have at 5-10 minutes while others say 20-30 minutes. Extracts 1 to 4 minutes

Q-What are typical absorption results?

A-For skin application- 60%

A-Liquid- 98%

A-capsule- 10-20%

Q-What is the capsule to extract ratio?

A-20 to 1, meaning it would take 20 capsules to = 1 teaspoon of extract



Q-When is the best time to take an herb?

A-In general herbs are best taken on an empty stomach

http://www.breastnexus.com/showthread.php?tid=19863

Hmm, so in the long run, its better to try and get the liquid extracts. Not only may it work out less expensive, it will increase the absorbon rate of what we are taking.

Hi Janet,

I'd go with PM extract, the breast spray is merely an add-on to the capsules. As I suggested to Erin, sublingual seems to be the one of the more effective delivery options for PM extract. (short of intravenous). Rolleyes



RE: Anti-Androgens - Larana - 06-06-2014

Lotus/Roxy Do you had experienced change on your butt with Lr?And Maca influenced the butt growing?


Somebody have an idea for BIGGER results?


RE: Anti-Androgens - undecided - 06-06-2014

(05-06-2014, 11:53 PM)Heather-H Wrote:  
(05-06-2014, 11:31 PM)Janet doe Wrote:  
(03-06-2014, 01:40 PM)ErinMichelle Wrote:  Has anyone tried WP sublingually? I'm interested if the doses would be less this way since it wouldn't need to pass through the liver.

I try to do my extract that way, but the best I've been able to do is try to let it sit there and resist the urge to swallow for as long as possible. Of course going that route you don't have to use nearly as much. Depending on what it is, it can be 3-4x more potent, that is if what you're taking sublingually is a good candidate for absorption via that method.

Lotus has done an outstanding job at explaining that.

Considering the alcohol content, sublingual is gonna be hard to do. And, if you do try it, the stinging you'll get might be hard to bear. Take a look at this, in liquid extract its getting released in a fraction of the time compared to capsules.

Thanks Spoked451,

(09-03-2014, 11:02 PM)Lotus Wrote:  
General averages of rates/ratios when consuming herbs



Q-How long does a capsule take to dissolve?

A-Typically the average is up to 20 minutes, some sources have at 5-10 minutes while others say 20-30 minutes. Extracts 1 to 4 minutes

Q-What are typical absorption results?

A-For skin application- 60%

A-Liquid- 98%

A-capsule- 10-20%

Q-What is the capsule to extract ratio?

A-20 to 1, meaning it would take 20 capsules to = 1 teaspoon of extract



Q-When is the best time to take an herb?

A-In general herbs are best taken on an empty stomach

http://www.breastnexus.com/showthread.php?tid=19863

Hmm, so in the long run, its better to try and get the liquid extracts. Not only may it work out less expensive, it will increase the absorbon rate of what we are taking.
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Janet, you have asked the very question that was on my lips. I need to be convinced though that the extract works better. For some unknown reason I have not experienced the same effects with extract against capsules.
My dear friend Myboobs seems to have found otherwise and this could be down to me using standard strength against Xtreme that Myboobs uses.

Janet, you are a cleaver girl and I would love to know what brand and strength you use.

Lots of love
Heather X

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Heather, I don't know about clever ..lol
I`m just using: http://www.ainterol.us/categories/Pueraria-Mirifica/Extract-Liquid/
Although i am taking 6 drops twice daily, I found 3 drops twice daily started to diminish the growing pains.

RE: Anti-Androgens - bobie - 07-06-2014

Lotus would you recommend taking saw palmetto capsules on an empty stomach? the bottle suggests taking with a meal but as i take it at the same time as my pm which i beleive is best taking on an empty stomach i tend to eat a yogurt or something small with it