[Debtech]

Hi everyone, I have recently switched from PM to BO
and just started BO 4 days ago. Having researched for a while I believe at least giving BO a try is a good thing. I am currently taking 1 BO capsule along with 1 PG capsule, 1 500mg WP and 1 kelp tab. I have tried RR before but my stomach has problems handling it. I am taking this twice a day. I guess my main question is, does it sound like I’m on the right track?

[Denisem]

Hi deb, I am only fairly new here and I am sure that others will have a better plan than mine, but I take 2 BO in the morning as well as 2 BO and 1 pituitary gland in the evening. I supplement these with 1 green tea extract and 1 reishi each morning early as well as 4 fenugreek and 4 evening primrose spread through the day. I think the green tea should be just as good as the reishi if that is giving you problems. Try and remember that it takes time to work x

[tomi66]

......... I am currently taking 1 BO capsule along with 1 PG capsule, 1 500mg WP and 1 kelp tab. I have tried RR before but my stomach has problems handling it. I am taking this twice a day. I guess my main question is, does it sound like I’m on the right track?

Hi Debtech,
That's a good start. I was on a BO PG blend for about 2 years with good results. BO is hit and miss with people but you have a good start on a program. It's been reported that body temp should be 98.6 F or greater for best results and it doesn't hurt to add DHEA as a building block and a high protein diet.

I had an information sheet about best practices and how it works with BO but I can't find it right now, it's in other threads on here though. If I can find it I will definitely share with you.

[Debtech]

First of all, thank you so much for responding to my post. I am really excited and hoping that BO works for me. I did forget to mention that I am making protein drinks in the morning and at lunch. I really appreciate you guys input as I go through this journey, also, I will take a look and see what I can get as far as the DHEA goes

[Heaven's Night]

Be mindful of the fact that DHEA elevates estrone, estradiol, estriol and progesterone, but it also boosts adrogens. Do not overdo the dosing and its a good idea to have some sort of efficient androgen blocking going on so your T and DHT wont spike too much.

I'm taking oral DHEA along with Bicalutamide as a blocker, this combo works extremely well, but I'm not sure how it would be without. DHEA can boost estrogens considerably and double progesterone levels, just rememeber that everything is about balance and messing it up isn't all that difficult.

Here's something that might interest you about DHEA.


Below image comes from a study done on older trans women, I presume age 55+. 

[Debtech]

This is all amazing advice, thank you so much. I am looking into both DHEA and bicalutamide, any beginner/starting dosage recommendations? 

[Heaven's Night]

This is all amazing advice, thank you so much. I am looking into both DHEA and bicalutamide, any beginner/starting dosage recommendations? 

One thing I should point out, I'm not sure how your body reacts to oral DHEA if you are not on feminising HRT and have female hormone balance. I have a good idea what it does when doing it like this, but DHEA is a bit of a grey area due to its function being quite complex. It can convert to a quite big number of hormones and I don't think its well studied enough yet.

Its been speculated to once day replace conventional HRT programs, but the problem is how to control what it does.

Along with HRT, female hormone balance and Bica as a T blocker, it seems very helpful. It feels like its doing hormone balancing, the mental effect reminds me of that of Bovine Ovary.

For dosages, 25mg of Bica biweekly is enough for T suppression. So a typical 50mg pill split in two. DHEA you should not overdo, I would start with 25mg and keep it going for 1-3 months to feel how it works and letting your body adapt. Then you can consider upping it to 50mg. I'm currently on the latter and its been really good on me. Note that for oral consumption you can use non micronised DHEA which is a bit cheaper. 

I should repeat a little warning on use of DHEA, it is highly experimental. Proceed with caution as you can't exactly predict its effect before trying it. I wanted to test it along with Bica as that has been theorised to be a functional method to take it and I thought why not try as I'm on Bica already. Its beenvery useful and helped to boost body changes. Its well worth a try but just be careful.