Hi, I’m late starting at 56. But having breasts and a feminine shape (waist and bum) is something I have wanted since I was very young but never had courage to come out. I have tried various methods with a little success (fenugreek and femme enhance) along with suction cups, however although when I feel then they are definitely a lot larger and when I look down I see breasts in the mirror they look like man boobs. After reading through threads I just started on PM and looking for advice on what herbal Progesterone and Anti-Androgens, are safe and available in UK Many thanks in advance for any advice x
I'm late 50's developing a more femme all over curves and UK based.
Presumably you have done your research on all the threads here and know about the risk of PM induced DVT! There are lots of folks on the board who have experienced it, but if you know the risks and the signs then at least you are fore-warned as they say.
I did a spell on PM, then Bovine and now on E and what I found generally was, but do remember everyone's journey differs:
I've also done progesterone, which I am still on, and AA's which I have now dropped because my testosterone level is at the female lower end and therefore have negligible DHT being produced.
There's diffrent schools of thought on progesterone, if it does/doesn't help and when is best to start it. I started using SMNurtrition Progesto-Life cream which is a USP progesterone after I had budded and I continue to use it so, along with my E I'm seeing good lower-half curve development. The better progesterone is pukka P4 progesterone which comes in cream or tablet formats, but you'd have to order that from overseas.
For AA's the best combo that nukes DHT according to our fantastic Lotus is Green Tea extract (EGCG) and Red Reishi mushroom, both of which are easy to source in the UK, typically Swanson / British Supplements, etc. I believe this combo is nearly effective as Finasteride, but of course you'd have to source that from overseas.
Other tips and tricks to consider...
Topical regime - there's a whole raft of us doing our own version of this, so definitely worth researching. Admittedly, for most topical is an addition, but many are seeing some good results. My version is based around prog cream and oestradiol gel, with the occasional red clover, micronised DHEA and aloe vera gel all thrown in the mix. I'm certainly seeing more lower-half curves developing, but E will be helping this too.
Exercise - specifically targeting legs, bums and tums is a great way of developing those lower curves. Search YouTube as there are a loads of lovely ladies with their own routines, try a few and then stick with one and do it.
Good luck with your journey and hope that the above info helps.
Presumably you have done your research on all the threads here and know about the risk of PM induced DVT! There are lots of folks on the board who have experienced it, but if you know the risks and the signs then at least you are fore-warned as they say.
I did a spell on PM, then Bovine and now on E and what I found generally was, but do remember everyone's journey differs:
- PM gave me buds but very little volume/shape so very man-boobs, and zero lower curves.
- Bovine gave me more breast volume and I did see some lower half curves development.
- For that all-over femme shape that I'm after, E which in my case is Een weekly injections, is by far the BEST option.
I've also done progesterone, which I am still on, and AA's which I have now dropped because my testosterone level is at the female lower end and therefore have negligible DHT being produced.
There's diffrent schools of thought on progesterone, if it does/doesn't help and when is best to start it. I started using SMNurtrition Progesto-Life cream which is a USP progesterone after I had budded and I continue to use it so, along with my E I'm seeing good lower-half curve development. The better progesterone is pukka P4 progesterone which comes in cream or tablet formats, but you'd have to order that from overseas.
For AA's the best combo that nukes DHT according to our fantastic Lotus is Green Tea extract (EGCG) and Red Reishi mushroom, both of which are easy to source in the UK, typically Swanson / British Supplements, etc. I believe this combo is nearly effective as Finasteride, but of course you'd have to source that from overseas.
Other tips and tricks to consider...
Topical regime - there's a whole raft of us doing our own version of this, so definitely worth researching. Admittedly, for most topical is an addition, but many are seeing some good results. My version is based around prog cream and oestradiol gel, with the occasional red clover, micronised DHEA and aloe vera gel all thrown in the mix. I'm certainly seeing more lower-half curves developing, but E will be helping this too.
Exercise - specifically targeting legs, bums and tums is a great way of developing those lower curves. Search YouTube as there are a loads of lovely ladies with their own routines, try a few and then stick with one and do it.
Good luck with your journey and hope that the above info helps.
Aww thanks so much x I’ve looked at so much information over the last few months it’s difficult to remember which thread and what direction to go, your detailed response will definitely give me more idea on how to progress my journey x good luck with your journey and hope you become who you want to be x
(30-08-2025, 01:51 PM)wee2er Wrote: I did a spell on PM, then Bovine and now on E and what I found generally was, but do remember everyone's journey differs:
- PM gave me buds but very little volume/shape so very man-boobs, and zero lower curves.
- Bovine gave me more breast volume and I did see some lower half curves development.
- For that all-over femme shape that I'm after, E which in my case is Een weekly injections, is by far the BEST option.
Topical regime - there's a whole raft of us doing our own version of this, so definitely worth researching. Admittedly, for most topical is an addition, but many are seeing some good results. My version is based around prog cream and oestradiol gel, with the occasional red clover, micronised DHEA and aloe vera gel all thrown in the mix. I'm certainly seeing more lower-half curves developing, but E will be helping this too.
Where in the UK can we get oestradiol gel without going to the GP?
The only place I found was in the USA - which may get caught by customs.
(30-08-2025, 01:51 PM)wee2er Wrote: J'ai la cinquantaine avancée, je développe une personnalité plus féminine, avec des courbes généreuses et je vis au Royaume-Uni.
Vous avez probablement fait des recherches sur tous les sujets ici et connaissez les risques de TVP induite par les PM ! Beaucoup de personnes sur le forum en ont fait l'expérience, mais si vous connaissez les risques et les signes, vous êtes au moins prévenue, comme on dit.
J'ai fait un essai sur PM, puis Bovine et maintenant sur E, et j'ai constaté que, globalement, le parcours de chacun est différent :
- PM m'a donné des bourgeons mais très peu de volume/forme donc très masculins, et aucune courbe inférieure.
- Bovine m'a donné plus de volume mammaire et j'ai vu un certain développement des courbes de la moitié inférieure.
- Pour cette silhouette féminine que je recherche, E, qui dans mon cas est Een, des injections hebdomadaires, est de loin la MEILLEURE option.
J'ai également pris de la progestérone, que je prends toujours, et des AA, que j'ai maintenant arrêtés car mon taux de testostérone est au plus bas chez les femmes et ma production de DHT est donc négligeable.
Les avis divergent quant à la progestérone : son efficacité ou son inefficacité, et le meilleur moment pour la commencer. J'ai commencé à utiliser la crème SMNurtrition Progesto-Life, une progestérone USP, après avoir bourgeonné, et je continue à l'utiliser. Ainsi, en plus de mon éjaculation précoce, j'observe une bonne évolution de ma courbe inférieure. La meilleure progestérone est la progestérone Pukka P4, disponible en crème ou en comprimés, mais il faut la commander à l'étranger.
Pour les AA, la meilleure combinaison pour neutraliser la DHT, selon notre fantastique Lotus, est l'extrait de thé vert (EGCG) et le champignon Reishi rouge, tous deux faciles à trouver au Royaume-Uni, généralement chez Swanson / British Supplements, etc. Je pense que cette combinaison est presque aussi efficace que le finastéride, mais il faudrait bien sûr s'en procurer à l'étranger.
Autres conseils et astuces à prendre en compte…
Traitement topique : nous sommes nombreux à en faire notre propre version, donc cela vaut vraiment la peine de se renseigner. Certes, pour la plupart, le traitement topique est un complément, mais beaucoup constatent de bons résultats. Ma version est basée sur une crème prog et un gel d'œstradiol, avec parfois du trèfle rouge, de la DHEA micronisée et du gel d'aloe vera. Je constate certainement que davantage de rondeurs se développent au niveau de la moitié inférieure, mais l'E va également y contribuer.
L'exercice, ciblant spécifiquement les jambes, les fesses et le ventre, est un excellent moyen de développer ces rondeurs inférieures. Cherchez sur YouTube, car il y a plein de jolies femmes avec leurs propres routines. Essayez-en quelques-unes, puis restez fidèle à une seule et appliquez-la.
Bonne chance pour votre parcours et j'espère que ces informations vous seront utiles.
Bonjour wee2er
Est-ce qu'il faut attendre de bourgeonner avant de commencer à se masser avec des crèmes à la progestérone et aussi d'estriol. J'aimerais combiner le topique à ma routine mais je n'ai pas encore commencer à bourgeonner.
Merci
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