07-01-2016, 04:55 PM
thank you for your replies
keep them coming
the wording was exact as stops and makes you think
Julie
keep them coming
the wording was exact as stops and makes you think
Julie
07-01-2016, 06:34 PM
08-01-2016, 02:32 PM
Since part of my life is male, and part feminine and dressed, I would say both..
Is it safe to say, in the bedroom, all female?
Is it safe to say, in the bedroom, all female?
22-01-2016, 04:46 AM
I have come to "my own" conclusion in recent years that when observed neutrally from a distance women and men think and act very similar. I see the differences being solely contributed to our physical shape and the way the differing hormones act on our bodies and to a lesser degree social conformity.
there really is alot of men who socialise and function in a female way, and there are many women who socialise and function in a masculine way. Perhaps our personality differences are not gender based???
Testosterone is a such a powerful chemical. I wish I had some one to explain that the aggression and alienation I was experiencing during puberty was all due to chemicals in my body.
When I first started NBE my dosage was a little high and I got so emotional, it was a definite eye opener for how females have to deal with emotional roller coasters during puberty (and life). All my partners have said that I am very sensitive and emotion person, so it was a shock to me! Lol
So...... I definitely socialise like a female, I understand that now and it explains alot. I also desire to have the body of a female; But I do not, so I really dont know what I identify as, at this stage I identify as totally confused
I feel that I am walking on fence and about to fall off any day. I just do not know which side I will fall? So I might come back to this question when I see which side I land 
there really is alot of men who socialise and function in a female way, and there are many women who socialise and function in a masculine way. Perhaps our personality differences are not gender based???
Testosterone is a such a powerful chemical. I wish I had some one to explain that the aggression and alienation I was experiencing during puberty was all due to chemicals in my body.
When I first started NBE my dosage was a little high and I got so emotional, it was a definite eye opener for how females have to deal with emotional roller coasters during puberty (and life). All my partners have said that I am very sensitive and emotion person, so it was a shock to me! Lol
So...... I definitely socialise like a female, I understand that now and it explains alot. I also desire to have the body of a female; But I do not, so I really dont know what I identify as, at this stage I identify as totally confused
I feel that I am walking on fence and about to fall off any day. I just do not know which side I will fall? So I might come back to this question when I see which side I land
22-01-2016, 08:50 PM
Hi, giggypig,
I think I'll make more waves with this... :-P
You said, "there really is alot of men who socialise and function in a female way, and there are many women who socialise and function in a masculine way. Perhaps our personality differences are not gender based???"
Take a look at this article:
http://www.returnofkings.com/76742/how-m...like-women
Bearing in mind it is from a biased source, I still find it spot-on.
As the French said, "Vive la difference!"
If we were truly similar, and MEANT to be truly similar - more like earthworms, say, which are hermaphroditic - I'd think we'd be far less "preferential" in our sexual wants, and our gender questions wouldn't exist, really.
If you can be Masculine or Feminine, but they are essentially the same, why bother going through what we go through?
So there MUST be a difference, in terms of biology.
I also am biased in this, as I have a woman in my life who is NOT supportive, and "tolerates" my oddities provided I don't crossdress, don't go out without a sports bra on (to minimize the "girls" - given that Gyno vests are $80 per, and cheap but effective sports bra is $10-$20?) ... ...
She doesn't like me with "long" (beyond #3 buzzcut) hair, likes me "scruffy" and unshaven, wants me to take charge in everything (but fights me tooth and nail about each and every step!)...
Yet she is "large and in charge" from the time she gets up in the morning. She's my size, roughly - slightly shorter, slightly heavier. LOUD. Aggressive. Very vocal in her disagreements.
If I didn't KNOW she was female, I'd guess she was a guy.
So the point of all of that is also to support that there IS a difference in males and females, and a reason for Masculine and Feminine - and what we're seeing these days is, with no segregation of man and woman, they are increasingly difficult to tell apart.
I think our very existence makes it obvious there's something DIFFERENT from one to the other. I don't want breasts so I can HAVE to wear a bra. I don't want hips and waist (just) to fill out a dress.
I want to look female and feminine because I perceive a benefit to being seen that way by others. Because I see a benefit to BEING that way.
And I've asked more than one woman, when she was being aggressive or coarse or crude, would she prefer to be a man? And the answer is ALWAYS "no". Sometimes, "F*CK, NO!"
But never a yes.
Whereas, asking men the same question, you generally get that same response... And a bit of an odd look.
So, both sexes fall out into their normally-assigned genders fairly well, and don't really want to cross over - which means, they perceive a loss, or at the least, a difference.
But if we are ALWAYS in mixed groups, and ALWAYS worrying about feelings (a feminine trait, grouping together for safety, aka socialization, and the accompanying consensus governance) - males will pick up a lot of feminine expressions. Feminine concerns will nest in their minds. And, vice-versa, women will end up masculinized. Aggressive, body builder types, hating their body because of the softness men actually love... And liking only CERTAIN aspects of men to be hard. E.G., his muscles should be "big enough," but not, "too big." And he should have hair on his head, and facial hair, but no body hair, and ESPECIALLY no BACK hair! (Exaggerating to make the point, but I think most can follow it easily.)
I think we'd be better off if each group could celebrate what makes it unique, but - Here I am, wishing I was a Size 2... Or, hell, a size 20! ;-)
I want the grace, I want the beauty, and I would love to know that sort of power - the face that launched a thousand ships, for example? Women use it all the time, never think about it. And the same girl that has a mouth like a sailor, the social skills of Forrest Gump, and the temperament of a rabid honey badger, is sweetness and light the instant she can profit from acting feminine.
At the same time, a man is ALWAYS "the enemy" in the equivalent situation. (Think traffic stop. She cries, flutters her eyelashes, flirts, and gets off. He is polite, courteous, and gets a ticket. See also, "Duluth model of domestic violence," and think of how The Patriarchy has benefited you, by oppressing women like you mother, sisters, friends, and forcing you to register for Selective Service, while denigrating the respect of serving... the list goes on...)
LOTS of difference there.
How many of us are here to play dress-up? Not many, if any! "Drag" becomes dressing in male clothes.... Living a lie (life) of pretending to be in charge, when you know you're at the mercy of bosses, bureaucrats, even public servants like subway engineers.... Talking football to fit in, while wondering if the girl in the corner cube is wearing sexier panties than you are.... HOPING no one at the surprise HR meeting is a hugger, because BRA STRAPS!!!
Wishing you COULD hug someone who is having an emotional moment... But men don't touch. (Touch a man, you're gay, touch a woman, it's a trip to HR for sexual harassment and sensitivity training.)
And let's not even discuss those who are venomous Leftists! Tolerant of everyone, Provided you do everything their way, right away, no discussion, no observations, no questions! You're white, you're an oppressor! Even white women oppress Muslims, by breathing! (Etc. Truth is stranger than fiction, but we're talking about those who think they do unborn children a FAVOR by murdering them. Google Margaret Sanger...)
I'm sorry, it's getting Ranty.
But there's something Special about women. Otherwise, why bother (trying to, for us) be a woman?
I'll close with Marilyn Monroe's comment, "I don't care that it's a man's world, as long as I am a woman in it."
I think I'll make more waves with this... :-P
You said, "there really is alot of men who socialise and function in a female way, and there are many women who socialise and function in a masculine way. Perhaps our personality differences are not gender based???"
Take a look at this article:
http://www.returnofkings.com/76742/how-m...like-women
Bearing in mind it is from a biased source, I still find it spot-on.
As the French said, "Vive la difference!"
If we were truly similar, and MEANT to be truly similar - more like earthworms, say, which are hermaphroditic - I'd think we'd be far less "preferential" in our sexual wants, and our gender questions wouldn't exist, really.
If you can be Masculine or Feminine, but they are essentially the same, why bother going through what we go through?
So there MUST be a difference, in terms of biology.
I also am biased in this, as I have a woman in my life who is NOT supportive, and "tolerates" my oddities provided I don't crossdress, don't go out without a sports bra on (to minimize the "girls" - given that Gyno vests are $80 per, and cheap but effective sports bra is $10-$20?) ... ...
She doesn't like me with "long" (beyond #3 buzzcut) hair, likes me "scruffy" and unshaven, wants me to take charge in everything (but fights me tooth and nail about each and every step!)...
Yet she is "large and in charge" from the time she gets up in the morning. She's my size, roughly - slightly shorter, slightly heavier. LOUD. Aggressive. Very vocal in her disagreements.
If I didn't KNOW she was female, I'd guess she was a guy.
So the point of all of that is also to support that there IS a difference in males and females, and a reason for Masculine and Feminine - and what we're seeing these days is, with no segregation of man and woman, they are increasingly difficult to tell apart.
I think our very existence makes it obvious there's something DIFFERENT from one to the other. I don't want breasts so I can HAVE to wear a bra. I don't want hips and waist (just) to fill out a dress.
I want to look female and feminine because I perceive a benefit to being seen that way by others. Because I see a benefit to BEING that way.
And I've asked more than one woman, when she was being aggressive or coarse or crude, would she prefer to be a man? And the answer is ALWAYS "no". Sometimes, "F*CK, NO!"
But never a yes.
Whereas, asking men the same question, you generally get that same response... And a bit of an odd look.
So, both sexes fall out into their normally-assigned genders fairly well, and don't really want to cross over - which means, they perceive a loss, or at the least, a difference.
But if we are ALWAYS in mixed groups, and ALWAYS worrying about feelings (a feminine trait, grouping together for safety, aka socialization, and the accompanying consensus governance) - males will pick up a lot of feminine expressions. Feminine concerns will nest in their minds. And, vice-versa, women will end up masculinized. Aggressive, body builder types, hating their body because of the softness men actually love... And liking only CERTAIN aspects of men to be hard. E.G., his muscles should be "big enough," but not, "too big." And he should have hair on his head, and facial hair, but no body hair, and ESPECIALLY no BACK hair! (Exaggerating to make the point, but I think most can follow it easily.)
I think we'd be better off if each group could celebrate what makes it unique, but - Here I am, wishing I was a Size 2... Or, hell, a size 20! ;-)
I want the grace, I want the beauty, and I would love to know that sort of power - the face that launched a thousand ships, for example? Women use it all the time, never think about it. And the same girl that has a mouth like a sailor, the social skills of Forrest Gump, and the temperament of a rabid honey badger, is sweetness and light the instant she can profit from acting feminine.
At the same time, a man is ALWAYS "the enemy" in the equivalent situation. (Think traffic stop. She cries, flutters her eyelashes, flirts, and gets off. He is polite, courteous, and gets a ticket. See also, "Duluth model of domestic violence," and think of how The Patriarchy has benefited you, by oppressing women like you mother, sisters, friends, and forcing you to register for Selective Service, while denigrating the respect of serving... the list goes on...)
LOTS of difference there.
How many of us are here to play dress-up? Not many, if any! "Drag" becomes dressing in male clothes.... Living a lie (life) of pretending to be in charge, when you know you're at the mercy of bosses, bureaucrats, even public servants like subway engineers.... Talking football to fit in, while wondering if the girl in the corner cube is wearing sexier panties than you are.... HOPING no one at the surprise HR meeting is a hugger, because BRA STRAPS!!!
Wishing you COULD hug someone who is having an emotional moment... But men don't touch. (Touch a man, you're gay, touch a woman, it's a trip to HR for sexual harassment and sensitivity training.)
And let's not even discuss those who are venomous Leftists! Tolerant of everyone, Provided you do everything their way, right away, no discussion, no observations, no questions! You're white, you're an oppressor! Even white women oppress Muslims, by breathing! (Etc. Truth is stranger than fiction, but we're talking about those who think they do unborn children a FAVOR by murdering them. Google Margaret Sanger...)
I'm sorry, it's getting Ranty.
But there's something Special about women. Otherwise, why bother (trying to, for us) be a woman?
I'll close with Marilyn Monroe's comment, "I don't care that it's a man's world, as long as I am a woman in it."
22-01-2016, 09:06 PM
Getting to the topic...
I'm not sure where I fit.
I'm just "me." As horrifying as that can be.
I grew up feminine, mostly, and I wonder about that (hence the Return of Kings article linked above.) I grew up among women mostly, and found boys to be generally harsh, nasty, and unpleasant. I don't know, maybe it was the time and place; maybe much more abuse than we know?
What I recognize is, I grew to dislike my father, and was somewhat controlled by my mother.
This means I learned to relate as a female, essentially, and dad being absent so much didn't help any. Dad also had a pretty rough time growing up; maybe it got passed on, too?
The identification with the feminine made me a target growing up, too. Raise your hand if you were beaten, kicked, slapped, spit on as a child at school? Daily? And assaulted? Ruptured testicle...? Parents didn't/wouldn't listen, and you weren't ALLOWED to defend yourself...? (Dad was free with his hands, i.e., corporal punishment out of nowhere.)
And then you find out as an adult that his biggest complaint about you is, you got too far from home, and too far from parental influence, and you've turned out a disaster (disappointment) because you weren't hit enough? (Including by teachers.)
I don't know where I fit in, or even what I am sometimes. Masculine, Feminine, I know what I like and want - and Masculine isn't it, except I MUST be strong enough to not EVER be attacked again.
The long list of issues is because I know of someone who was mis-diagnosed as transsexual, and is now transitioned - but not too happy with that, now that the other issues have come to light.
I love the idea of being a shemale, word used intentionally for clarity. As I get older, though, and more masculine, it's more and more impossible to even get lean - let alone svelte or feminine. And I wouldn't pass for "buxom" because, no waist. No hips. I keep working, but... Going the wrong way.
Yet even without supplements at this time, I feel my nipples twinge... Feel what might be growth. Love having them. Wish I had someone who would suckle on them (the girlfriend won't.)
And any more, with a TMI warning for the following.... I'm not thinking "male". Not interested in "second best" female, but not really interested in the Manly side of things. While some of that is DEFINITELY partner (I know things work), and she needs to lose a good 140 pounds plus a ton of attitude, I fantasize about walking into "my harem" of sex slaves, taking them to bed, and... Cuddling and caressing until I fall asleep. No sex in the fantasies.
So, what does that make me...? I'm guessing more feminine than masculine, but I'm genetically stuck on this (male) side of the fence - so, "penis girl" is close enough, maybe.
(Because THAT is how things SHOULD be, Gurl-on-girl sex for a few hours, and orgasms and cuddling both on the menu.) :-D
I'm not sure where I fit.
I'm just "me." As horrifying as that can be.
I grew up feminine, mostly, and I wonder about that (hence the Return of Kings article linked above.) I grew up among women mostly, and found boys to be generally harsh, nasty, and unpleasant. I don't know, maybe it was the time and place; maybe much more abuse than we know?
What I recognize is, I grew to dislike my father, and was somewhat controlled by my mother.
This means I learned to relate as a female, essentially, and dad being absent so much didn't help any. Dad also had a pretty rough time growing up; maybe it got passed on, too?
The identification with the feminine made me a target growing up, too. Raise your hand if you were beaten, kicked, slapped, spit on as a child at school? Daily? And assaulted? Ruptured testicle...? Parents didn't/wouldn't listen, and you weren't ALLOWED to defend yourself...? (Dad was free with his hands, i.e., corporal punishment out of nowhere.)
And then you find out as an adult that his biggest complaint about you is, you got too far from home, and too far from parental influence, and you've turned out a disaster (disappointment) because you weren't hit enough? (Including by teachers.)
I don't know where I fit in, or even what I am sometimes. Masculine, Feminine, I know what I like and want - and Masculine isn't it, except I MUST be strong enough to not EVER be attacked again.
The long list of issues is because I know of someone who was mis-diagnosed as transsexual, and is now transitioned - but not too happy with that, now that the other issues have come to light.
I love the idea of being a shemale, word used intentionally for clarity. As I get older, though, and more masculine, it's more and more impossible to even get lean - let alone svelte or feminine. And I wouldn't pass for "buxom" because, no waist. No hips. I keep working, but... Going the wrong way.
Yet even without supplements at this time, I feel my nipples twinge... Feel what might be growth. Love having them. Wish I had someone who would suckle on them (the girlfriend won't.)
And any more, with a TMI warning for the following.... I'm not thinking "male". Not interested in "second best" female, but not really interested in the Manly side of things. While some of that is DEFINITELY partner (I know things work), and she needs to lose a good 140 pounds plus a ton of attitude, I fantasize about walking into "my harem" of sex slaves, taking them to bed, and... Cuddling and caressing until I fall asleep. No sex in the fantasies.
So, what does that make me...? I'm guessing more feminine than masculine, but I'm genetically stuck on this (male) side of the fence - so, "penis girl" is close enough, maybe.
(Because THAT is how things SHOULD be, Gurl-on-girl sex for a few hours, and orgasms and cuddling both on the menu.) :-D
23-01-2016, 05:49 PM
Androgyne I socially I guess. I let people perceive me as male and do nothing to make them think otherwise, but that is just for convenience. If in the future I cease to be male-ish passing I'll have choices to make.
At this point I am in the last third of my weight loss journey, that once complete will completely change my body contour, its kind of andro already. I have a B-cup, and have only seen 33-66% of the likely effects of HRT. Shoulder length very nice hair, it's going to at least mid back, and I am a third done buring off my beard. So in 6-24 months I might not even be able to male anymore. We'll see.
In the bedroom I feel very much like a woman with a penis, but since my wife is cis-hetero, and I am pretty mid-gender spectrum and have no GD from it I figure that just makes both our lives easier to think that way.
I'm just kind of me. NB, is different, but it doesn't have to be any more complicated than you make it.
- JJ
At this point I am in the last third of my weight loss journey, that once complete will completely change my body contour, its kind of andro already. I have a B-cup, and have only seen 33-66% of the likely effects of HRT. Shoulder length very nice hair, it's going to at least mid back, and I am a third done buring off my beard. So in 6-24 months I might not even be able to male anymore. We'll see.
In the bedroom I feel very much like a woman with a penis, but since my wife is cis-hetero, and I am pretty mid-gender spectrum and have no GD from it I figure that just makes both our lives easier to think that way.
I'm just kind of me. NB, is different, but it doesn't have to be any more complicated than you make it.
- JJ
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