[Happyme]

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Good to see you to Lotus. 

I'm trying to figure out what to take, so that I don't take a herb that's doing the same thing as another.
How good is HGH vs. Gaba or Deer Velvet? Paba versus grape fruit?
Another test I'm thinking of is switching to Bovine Ovary (is it true that you need to maintain a certain body temp for it to work?) for estrogen, pro-aromatase, and 5-AR inhibiting; and Spearmint/Pygeum for an anti-androgen . Now that I'm thinking about starting again after a year, I think I'll not take PM since I've heard there's a global shortage of it recently or something.
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I'd shoot for natural HGH production from exercise over otc or internet HGH.....(in my opinion), you'll have to hit peak levels of short burst of high intensity interval traing (aka- HIIT)....  hard work but so much more worth it.

I wouldn't be take gaba, paba or DV,,,,,to unreliable from what I've seen.

Reishi inhibits DHT......its been the best herbal anti-androgen I've taken...in fact my last blood test showed a low level was kept in place of spiro, which I stopped taking 3 weeks prior @ 9 ng/dL (basically a stiff mans T, lol, well a monk, or eunuch). The brand I used was from host defense, $16.00

BO if you must, (it wasn't for me). what happened to hrt?

apologies for the late response.  
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Hi Lotus!
Very happy to see your posts again.
I was a Red Reishi fan for over a year, but switched to Evening Primrose, 1300mg and find it works better for me.
Could it just be the change bumped me off a plateau?
Thanks for all you do... even if a lot is over my head.
Bobbi