19-12-2016, 04:28 AM
(18-12-2016, 04:54 AM)Stevenator Wrote:(09-12-2013, 10:05 PM)Lotus Wrote: Can feminizing go too far?,People say I've lost weight, which I haven't, I've gained. But they see it in my face, I'm guessing, as the whole fat transfer might be happening. But reading this post made me think of cheek pain I've been experiencing lately. I wonder where it will lead. Gotta laugh about the hair quote. It's totally true.
Honestly I'm not one to do much primping before the mirror, but I notice there's a difference in my appearance the other day. Cheek bones has softened, chin narrowed, face thinned, hair won't sit as usual (even with gel), it's like boing, bounces right back up
Forgot to say that my cheek bones where hurting for awhile and didn't put it together!
But if you start to notice that if you pinch yourself and get a little EXTRA!!, perhaps that's the subtle changes we're looking for!...it's just the feel, or the texture of it, not the manhide we all know,lol
But about feminizing, how far is too far?
L.
That's awesome Stevenator, it'll change more lol. A misconception is estrogen doesn't change bone structure, science says otherwise. That cheek bone pain was so bizarre, I couldn't figure out how E was affecting my cheek bones, sure enough estrogen receptors are in bone, and E has a part in bone growth and deterioration.......that's structural changes.
Estrogen and bone metabolism.
Väänänen HK1, Härkönen PL.
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Estrogen plays an important role in the growth and maturation of bone as well as in the regulation of bone turnover in adult bone. During bone growth estrogen is needed for proper closure of epiphyseal growth plates both in females and in males. Also in young skeleton estrogen deficiency leads to increased osteoclast formation and enhanced bone resorption. In menopause estrogen deficiency induces cancellous as well as cortical bone loss. Highly increased bone resorption in cancellous bone leads to general bone loss and destruction of local architecture because of penetrative resorption and microfractures. In cortical bone the first response of estrogen withdrawal is enhanced endocortical resorption. Later, also intracortical porosity increases. These lead to decreased bone mass, disturbed architecture and reduced bone strength. At cellular level in bone estrogen inhibits differentiation of osteoclasts thus decreasing their number and reducing the amount of active remodeling units. This effect is probably mediated through some cytokines, IL-1 and IL-6 being strongest candidates. Estrogen regulates the expression of IL-6 in bone marrow cells by a so far unknown mechanism. It is still uncertain if the effects of estrogen on osteoblasts is direct or is due to coupling phenomenon between bone formation to resorption.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8865143
The hair sitting tight I assumed was because of DHT being more present, that's the nearest I could figure anyways, now it's wavey and curly at times if that makes any sense.