24-02-2016, 04:40 PM
Hi Lotus
Been following developments with great interest. Some amazing stuff! I may not be able to add much to the scientific data but could add my own experiences and observations if I may?
Green Tea combined with Citrus, especially when backed up with GTE.... works!! Can now confirm this from my own experience.
Metformin. Had a headslap moment when I read that bit! With hindsight I can see that's exactly what happened to me. I was only on Metformin for a short while but it also coincided with when I really ramped up my NBE programme. Guess that in part answers why my weight shot up and I was getting some contradictory effects to the NBE.
Again from my own experience, high blood sugar and cholesterol levels do impede NBE. Get them down and things improve noticeably.
You mentioned somewhere about Antihistamines. This started off a whole new line of thought for me. I must have blinked where you made the comment, but I couldn't quite get how you thought it might be helpful?
Method of delivery. Accepted wisdom is that as these substances go through the digestive system and liver, much seems to get lost. But I suspect we may be underestimating a potentially beneficial effect achieved by being 'processed'? My own experience with PM definitely seems to indicate that sublingual will give more of an immediate hit, but oral is without doubt still effective. And although I cannot be specific, I suspect may actually have different/complementary effects?
There is also a simple equation which those of us who are carrying around too many inches/cm may not fully realise the implications of. [Oestrogen loves fat~Testosterone loves muscle~Muscle burns fat] Let's just say that denial isn't just a river in Egypt and I fought reeeeally hard against accepting this one. But trying to loose weight while seriously ramping up oestrogen levels makes a difficult job almost *%$@£#*! impossible!
Not saying it can't be done if you are fit and healthy (which I am not), but we are talking lifelong changes here aren't we? Surely a little patience and planning can go a long way to making our long term goals far more achievable and with a lot less frustration and dissapointment? Pick your battles and you are more likely to win the war? I am working on a programme to do NBE and loose weight, and I do now believe it is possible. Early days but indications are very encouraging.
Oh, and anything that can reduce the need to chomp down loads of pills has got to be the way to go. Seriously interested in seeing how that line of thought progresses. Having 98% of hormones already in our system (so 100% natural) and not being utilised had got to be an opportunity worth exploring.
Exciting times to be on BN :-)
Huggy.
Been following developments with great interest. Some amazing stuff! I may not be able to add much to the scientific data but could add my own experiences and observations if I may?
Green Tea combined with Citrus, especially when backed up with GTE.... works!! Can now confirm this from my own experience.
Metformin. Had a headslap moment when I read that bit! With hindsight I can see that's exactly what happened to me. I was only on Metformin for a short while but it also coincided with when I really ramped up my NBE programme. Guess that in part answers why my weight shot up and I was getting some contradictory effects to the NBE.
Again from my own experience, high blood sugar and cholesterol levels do impede NBE. Get them down and things improve noticeably.
You mentioned somewhere about Antihistamines. This started off a whole new line of thought for me. I must have blinked where you made the comment, but I couldn't quite get how you thought it might be helpful?
Method of delivery. Accepted wisdom is that as these substances go through the digestive system and liver, much seems to get lost. But I suspect we may be underestimating a potentially beneficial effect achieved by being 'processed'? My own experience with PM definitely seems to indicate that sublingual will give more of an immediate hit, but oral is without doubt still effective. And although I cannot be specific, I suspect may actually have different/complementary effects?
There is also a simple equation which those of us who are carrying around too many inches/cm may not fully realise the implications of. [Oestrogen loves fat~Testosterone loves muscle~Muscle burns fat] Let's just say that denial isn't just a river in Egypt and I fought reeeeally hard against accepting this one. But trying to loose weight while seriously ramping up oestrogen levels makes a difficult job almost *%$@£#*! impossible!
Not saying it can't be done if you are fit and healthy (which I am not), but we are talking lifelong changes here aren't we? Surely a little patience and planning can go a long way to making our long term goals far more achievable and with a lot less frustration and dissapointment? Pick your battles and you are more likely to win the war? I am working on a programme to do NBE and loose weight, and I do now believe it is possible. Early days but indications are very encouraging.
Oh, and anything that can reduce the need to chomp down loads of pills has got to be the way to go. Seriously interested in seeing how that line of thought progresses. Having 98% of hormones already in our system (so 100% natural) and not being utilised had got to be an opportunity worth exploring.
Exciting times to be on BN :-)
Huggy.