[Lotus]

A cautionary note please: I think it's a huge mistake bottoming out T, it's the quickest way to bring about depression, additional weight (especially abdominal fat), fatigue, and estrogen dominance, a few others but you get the point.

There's a few ways to get and keep some balance, progesterone cream, (avocados), DHEA (25 mg), exercise (probably the biggest support to function). T is not the poison.........it's DHT, which is undoubtedly the biggest NBE hurdle.

[ellacraig]

So what's grab and pull? As in fat brushing into the breast then scooping breast tissue into bras? Then cold pack after massage?

I can do that!

[Lotus]

So what's grab and pull? As in fat brushing into the breast then scooping breast tissue into bras? Then cold pack after massage?

I can do that!

It's very similar, in fact you and Peggy had a thread or post on it too, although I can't find it anymore. But it goes like this:

The massages I do,

Massage
1) While in a seated position, arms rested at your side and hands on your thighs.
2) Now raise your arms (elbows) as high as you can while keeping your hands on your thighs.
3) Then slowly squeeze your arms back down to your sides while adding pressure.(As if you had a ball under your arms and your simulating squeezing that ball as hard as you can on the way back down)
4) Do 3 sets of 10 ea. (or more if you can)
(Use a ball if it works better)

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Another massage
Also been working this Breast massage/exercise:
* With your hand grab your breast from your side, pull it towards the center of your chest, now hold and flex for 2-3 seconds or longer if you can, repeat up to 10 times!
* Try it with your palms pushing your breasts towards the center, as if your trying to touch your nipples together, now interlock your fingers together, using your hands squeeze like a cupping motion, also flex your pec's (tighten) at the same or alternate hand/pecs....up to 10 times.

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Training the pectorals, the pectoralis major and minor (the chest "pecs") are the muscles that lie directly underneath the the breasts. As these muscles get bigger, they can push breast tissue upwards and outwards, providing visual volume, and resulting in a "perkier" appearance.

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I've been doing my own version of an Isometric chest contraction, but for the purpose of demonstration, follow the first part of the video. This can be done anytime, standing or sitting, that's what is so perfect about it, no weights or mats.

No equipment needed chest exercise
http://youtube.com/watch?v=geOC7hCs930&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DgeOC7hCs930

[pom19]

Lotus, thanks for this info. POM

[Lotus]

Lotus, thanks for this info. POM

Anytime.

[Lotus]

Nooglers might disagree on this, but imo squishy boobs are the result of no muscle growth in breast tissue (from over noogling).The muscle building that's going on from breast exercise supports the breast, otherwise you get hangers, no offense meant to anyone please.

Nutrition is something we do daily, why not add some new breast techniques to go along with that daily nutrition.

[pom19]

Oh, I finished my fasting plus exercise for the whole month. It was absolutely amazing. But, I admit it was not easy. I wish people will practice what you find out and write- Thanks, POM

[Lotus]

Oh, I finished my fasting plus exercise for the whole month. It was absolutely amazing. But, I admit it was not easy. I wish people will practice what you find out and write- Thanks, POM

I'll bet it wasn't easy, the fasting part alone is absolute dedication, congrats POM, well done.

[pom19]

Oh, I finished my fasting plus exercise for the whole month. It was absolutely amazing. But, I admit it was not easy. I wish people will practice what you find out and write- Thanks, POM

I'll bet it wasn't easy, the fasting part alone is absolute dedication, congrats POM, well done.

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Well, you know there are two ways to fast-1 no food, but you may drink, 2 no drink either. I did the latter, and I exercised a few hours before the breaking of fast,and I was concerned about making it through. But I did it one day at a time, and before you knew it I was done. That was the 1st time n my life that I fasted and exercised at the same time for a month. Thanks again for the knowledge of HGH. Because anytime I doubted myself if I am pushing myself too much (some of my routines were HIIT.). I reminded myself what you said about HGH. Truly applied knowledge is power. <3 POM

[Lotus]

Oh, I finished my fasting plus exercise for the whole month. It was absolutely amazing. But, I admit it was not easy. I wish people will practice what you find out and write- Thanks, POM

I'll bet it wasn't easy, the fasting part alone is absolute dedication, congrats POM, well done.

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Well, you know there are two ways to fast-1 no food, but you may drink, 2 no drink either. I did the latter, and I exercised a few hours before the breaking of fast,and I was concerned about making it through. But I did it one day at a time, and before you knew it I was done. That was the 1st time n my life that I fasted and exercised at the same time for a month. Thanks again for the knowledge of HGH. Because anytime I doubted myself if I am pushing myself too much (some of my routines were HIIT.). I reminded myself what you said about HGH. Truly applied knowledge is power. <3 POM

That's excellent POM, you do remember that, I need to practice on remembering (myself lol), I forgot I said that. thank you for reminding me. Have a good night/weekend.