14-11-2014, 02:01 AM
(14-11-2014, 12:51 AM)Lotus Wrote:I have a slight bit more androgens than thats normal(I wouldn't call it excessive) but I will definitely look into Pumpkin Seed Oil.So, WP isn't strong enough to be on its own with an anti-androgen then?And maca is counterproductive?By the way,I'm looking for mostly butt growth but boobs would be nice too Im sorry...I'm still a bit confused >.<(13-11-2014, 11:46 PM)WannaBePearShaped Wrote: Since we are talking about estrogen,would a combination of White Peony and pygeum be strong enough for a biological female so that they wouldn't have to take any phytoestrogens?Or would they still need one and which do you recommend and at what doses?Also,would Maca affect the WP,Pygeum combo?
WP traditionally has been used for menstrual pains (cramping), the added benefit is aiding with converting free testosterone (which is the active part of T) to E.
Maca is a adaptogen, imo it can cause interference in the stomach for some, can effect other supplements?, possibly.
Quote:According to Dr. William Wong, (a PhD and natuaropath) you have to ingest 2-3 tablespoons of maca daily to have a physiological effect. Maca contains plant sterols that are precursors to testosterone and progesterone and also has DIM, which blocks and metabolizes estrogen. Dr. Wong also states that maca does not slow thyroid function as the cabbage-based DIM does.
Are you concerned about excess androgens?, I ask because pygeum may not be the one you need. Pygeum reduces prolactin, which you'll need for breast growth.
Have you looked into:
Pumpkin Seed Oil: Has been demonstrated to inhibit DHT formation through the inhibitory effect on 5-alpha-reductase activity. Pumpkin seed oil breaks down DHT via the liver. It's also slightly estrogenic.