(07-11-2014, 04:52 PM)ooBobbi Wrote: Mainly the PM is regular. I try to keep the PM flowing regularly without interruption. Off and on i will take fenugreek which really builds up the glands in the breasts. I am pretty certain it was fenugreek which connected my breasts to the rest of my body. I had never had sensations all through my whole body before, and now? Well now playing with my breasts can bring on orgasm by itself.
Off and on I also take saw palmetto, however the research on that is still contradictory. Female sites tend to say that it is good to lower testosterone levels, while other male sites say that it is good to raise T levels. My hair grows faster, thicker and stronger while on saw, so, I am not certain of that one still.
Off and on I also take the black cohosh. I take this less though because it really is an effective antiandrogen, big time, and you feel it. For me, it wipes me out really bad so i can't stay on that one for too long without breaks.
Breast grow has stalled though, and maybe even stopped. I have to do something to inspire new growth.
From Lotus`s thread :
"Black Cohosh-The weak estrogen like effects of black cohosh suppressed increased luteinizing hormone secretion in menopausal women, and this effect was specifically linked with a reduction in the incidence of hot flashes (Duker et al. 1991). Black cohosh extract has shown estrogenic effects within the body in several studies, but it does not elevate estrogen levels in the blood. Black cohosh extract appears to bind to estrogen receptors in order to mimic the hormonal effects of the weak estrogen, estriol."
I had originally stayed away from BC because of its weak estrogen like effects ( i did not want it to compete with my PM ) but, If I read into it a little more : In men, LH is also produced in the pituitary gland. LH binds to receptors in certain cells in the testes called Leydig cells. This leads to the release of testosterone, a hormone that is necessary for producing sperm cells. So I would think the BC is shutting the tests down, by suppressing the LH.
Maybe worth while cycling it in and out.