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Musings on gender identity

#71

(14-12-2013, 12:25 PM)AnnabelP Wrote:  ... we had to have our fifteen year old dog put down on Monday ...

I am sorry for your loss. Don't think there is anything bad about tearing up over it, I am getting misty thinking about how you must have felt. We had to put down our cat after almost 20 years several years ago, and our dog is showing age-related issues as lot these days. Always a very sad day when their time comes.
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#72

(14-12-2013, 12:25 PM)AnnabelP Wrote:  Your own comments seem to make good sense to me, and particularly your point on self esteem. I'm not so certain about becoming a different person; it seems to me more a case of one's basic personality being modulated, sometimes profoundly, by hormonal and environmental circumstances. Having been brought up very much in the 'stiff upper lip' tradition, I used to be embarrassed by unpredictable surges of emotion amongst many other things. These emotional episodes have become more intense, how much as a result of low T and how much as a result of higher T I don't know. Although I think that I've become a more relaxed person and less inclined to fight against 'letting it all hang out', I still found myself struggling to hide my tears from the vet when we had to have our fifteen year old dog put down on Monday, although I have largely given up on worrying about hiding my breast development - which represents a major character shift for me. I know this sounds muddled, but while I continue to surprise myself on this journey, I am still me.

I'm also sorry for your loss. Sad

As a child and adult I've found crying to be therapeutic. When I need to cry, I think there is a good reason for it. Sometimes I'm really sad about something, other times I think my body just needs the release. I hope being open about your grief helps you to cope with the hardships of your loss.

(14-12-2013, 06:18 PM)SarahSchilling Wrote:  That's interesting. My dad was never around growing up either, except every now and then he'd stay for a week, get really drunk, and start breaking shit. Wasn't a fan.

I also don't want kids and like cats and war documentaries lol.

(14-12-2013, 06:02 PM)flamesabers Wrote:  Huh

Are you teasing me Sarah? Big Grin

Maybe it's just me, but I think you're making us sound like a sort of pseudo online couple or something. Tongue

Yeah, I'm teasing you pretty much. The psuedo online couple is part of the humor, to me.

I think we've interacted enough for that to not creep you out I guess.

Sorry if it did, not at all serious.

My father didn't drink, but my mom always wished he would've had a job that didn't require him to be away so much. What I find to be interesting though is my brother grew up in the same household and he turned out to be the typical male, unlike me. He has a wife and kid, likes sports, has grown a beard, doesn't care for animals and he enjoys spending time with the guys. I suppose this reinforces the idea of nature having a significant role in the development of one's gender identity.

In regards to your couple's joke, no it didn't creep me out. (I found it to be very amusing.) This is one of the reasons why I really enjoy having substantive conversations with you and others on this board. It allows us to learn and understand the kind of person others are, even though we haven't met in person.
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#73

(14-12-2013, 05:50 PM)mymoobs Wrote:  just out of curiosity ' despite reading and researching on net could someone enlighten me the difference between GID / dual gender / Aphrodite ?

I would think that GID is pretty close to someone being transgendered; they were born one sex, but feel as though they SHOULD be the other, as in, born in the wrong body.
I've never heard of DG, but I'd think it's someone that's just as comfy presenting as one sex as they are the other. They could present as a guy one day and present as a woman the next.
An Aphrodite is someone that is born with both sexual organs.
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#74

(15-12-2013, 05:50 AM)Girl2B Wrote:  
(14-12-2013, 05:50 PM)mymoobs Wrote:  just out of curiosity ' despite reading and researching on net could someone enlighten me the difference between GID / dual gender / Aphrodite ?

I would think that GID is pretty close to someone being transgendered; they were born one sex, but feel as though they SHOULD be the other, as in, born in the wrong body.
I've never heard of DG, but I'd think it's someone that's just as comfy presenting as one sex as they are the other. They could present as a guy one day and present as a woman the next.
An Aphrodite is someone that is born with both sexual organs.
Thank you for detailed explaination . Just goes to show - you don't ask - you don't learn .
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#75

(15-12-2013, 05:54 AM)mymoobs Wrote:  
(15-12-2013, 05:50 AM)Girl2B Wrote:  
(14-12-2013, 05:50 PM)mymoobs Wrote:  just out of curiosity ' despite reading and researching on net could someone enlighten me the difference between GID / dual gender / Aphrodite ?

I would think that GID is pretty close to someone being transgendered; they were born one sex, but feel as though they SHOULD be the other, as in, born in the wrong body.
I've never heard of DG, but I'd think it's someone that's just as comfy presenting as one sex as they are the other. They could present as a guy one day and present as a woman the next.
An Aphrodite is someone that is born with both sexual organs.
Thank you for detailed explaination . Just goes to show - you don't ask - you don't learn .

No problem! :-) But, you CAN learn without asking. I've learned a LOT of stuff over the years without having to ask. I'm just very observant.
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#76

(15-12-2013, 05:57 AM)Girl2B Wrote:  
(15-12-2013, 05:54 AM)mymoobs Wrote:  
(15-12-2013, 05:50 AM)Girl2B Wrote:  
(14-12-2013, 05:50 PM)mymoobs Wrote:  just out of curiosity ' despite reading and researching on net could someone enlighten me the difference between GID / dual gender / Aphrodite ?

I would think that GID is pretty close to someone being transgendered; they were born one sex, but feel as though they SHOULD be the other, as in, born in the wrong body.
I've never heard of DG, but I'd think it's someone that's just as comfy presenting as one sex as they are the other. They could present as a guy one day and present as a woman the next.
An Aphrodite is someone that is born with both sexual organs.
Thank you for detailed explaination . Just goes to show - you don't ask - you don't learn .

No problem! :-) But, you CAN learn without asking. I've learned a LOT of stuff over the years without having to ask. I'm just very observant.
Not being rude but to spend hours on end trawling the and reading variation of answers , is it not easy to ask someone who already has done. The trwling !! Why re-invent the wheel ? Smile
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#77

(14-12-2013, 07:26 PM)flamesabers Wrote:  My father didn't drink, but my mom always wished he would've had a job that didn't require him to be away so much. What I find to be interesting though is my brother grew up in the same household and he turned out to be the typical male, unlike me. He has a wife and kid, likes sports, has grown a beard, doesn't care for animals and he enjoys spending time with the guys. I suppose this reinforces the idea of nature having a significant role in the development of one's gender identity.

In regards to your couple's joke, no it didn't creep me out. (I found it to be very amusing.) This is one of the reasons why I really enjoy having substantive conversations with you and others on this board. It allows us to learn and understand the kind of person others are, even though we haven't met in person.

Yeah, my younger brother is definitely male in every way. We don't relate at all, then again he was too young to remember what a piece of shit our dad was back then. He cleaned up later on and was alright. Kinda.....

But yeah I agree nature over nurture....but both play a role in shaping who we are as individuals.

Btw, "I found it to be very amusing" made me giggle. You're just so serious, how can I not tease you? Smile
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#78

(15-12-2013, 06:03 AM)mymoobs Wrote:  
(15-12-2013, 05:57 AM)Girl2B Wrote:  
(15-12-2013, 05:54 AM)mymoobs Wrote:  
(15-12-2013, 05:50 AM)Girl2B Wrote:  
(14-12-2013, 05:50 PM)mymoobs Wrote:  just out of curiosity ' despite reading and researching on net could someone enlighten me the difference between GID / dual gender / Aphrodite ?

I would think that GID is pretty close to someone being transgendered; they were born one sex, but feel as though they SHOULD be the other, as in, born in the wrong body.
I've never heard of DG, but I'd think it's someone that's just as comfy presenting as one sex as they are the other. They could present as a guy one day and present as a woman the next.
An Aphrodite is someone that is born with both sexual organs.
Thank you for detailed explaination . Just goes to show - you don't ask - you don't learn .

No problem! :-) But, you CAN learn without asking. I've learned a LOT of stuff over the years without having to ask. I'm just very observant.
Not being rude but to spend hours on end trawling the and reading variation of answers , is it not easy to ask someone who already has done. The trwling !! Why re-invent the wheel ? Smile

In some cases, it may be more satisfying, and stay with you longer, if you find out for yourself rather than have someone else just dump the info you quest onto you. Also, looking things up yourself might allow you to find out more than the person that already seems to have the info you want. For instance, they might know all the ins & outs of how The Beatles recorded the "Revolver" album, but they might NOT know that there was a first pressing that was made by mistake and only a few copies were sold before it was recalled to re-press the correct version.
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#79

(15-12-2013, 06:38 AM)Girl2B Wrote:  
(15-12-2013, 06:03 AM)mymoobs Wrote:  
(15-12-2013, 05:57 AM)Girl2B Wrote:  
(15-12-2013, 05:54 AM)mymoobs Wrote:  
(15-12-2013, 05:50 AM)Girl2B Wrote:  I would think that GID is pretty close to someone being transgendered; they were born one sex, but feel as though they SHOULD be the other, as in, born in the wrong body.
I've never heard of DG, but I'd think it's someone that's just as comfy presenting as one sex as they are the other. They could present as a guy one day and present as a woman the next.
An Aphrodite is someone that is born with both sexual organs.
Thank you for detailed explaination . Just goes to show - you don't ask - you don't learn .

No problem! :-) But, you CAN learn without asking. I've learned a LOT of stuff over the years without having to ask. I'm just very observant.
Not being rude but to spend hours on end trawling the and reading variation of answers , is it not easy to ask someone who already has done. The trwling !! Why re-invent the wheel ? Smile

In some cases, it may be more satisfying, and stay with you longer, if you find out for yourself rather than have someone else just dump the info you quest onto you. Also, looking things up yourself might allow you to find out more than the person that already seems to have the info you want. For instance, they might know all the ins & outs of how The Beatles recorded the "Revolver" album, but they might NOT know that there was a first pressing that was made by mistake and only a few copies were sold before it was recalled to re-press the correct version.

That's so deep !! Almost philosophical !!
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#80

(15-12-2013, 06:22 AM)SarahSchilling Wrote:  Btw, "I found it to be very amusing" made me giggle. You're just so serious, how can I not tease you? Smile

It seems regardless of how feminine or masculine my personality evolves, being serious has always been a key element of who I am. The peculiar thing is I tend to see myself as being more laid back and a teaser in this forum than in real life. I can only imagine how serious you would perceive me to be if we met offline. (For one, using smilies would not be an option.) Big Grin



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