For decades bodybuilders have been taking steroids.
and the smart ones don't loose their sex drive, have their balls shrink, suffer lower Testosterone , lowering of sperm count, decrease in energy or any of the bad symptoms that lots of people on this site suffer.

They do what is called cycling.

they go on a drug that lowers there body's production of Testosterone - for them its steroids for you its PM.

but they only take it for a short time- then take a drug that increases there natural production of Testosterone then back on steroids for another cycle.

they cycle back and forth for years and never loose what many here have lost.

Just the opposite their body's natural production of Testosterone increases every year!

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I will soon research what herb would be effective for this purpose ( remove its toxins ) test it and post instructions here.

Ok great

Some of us though do need too lower testosterone a little

As with me being a bi gender brain very high levels of t make me ultra girly

Many of us report when on pm these gid feelings level off or go

Julie

Ps
I do agree with what you say there though

Ok great

Some of us though do need too lower testosterone a little

As with me being a bi gender brain very high levels of t make me ultra girly

Many of us report when on pm these gid feelings level off or go

Julie

Ps
I do agree with what you say there though

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What do you do to lower testosterone?
can the dose be adjusted so you can lower it just a little?
and when you stop taking the drug does testosterone recover?

I find comparing bodybuilding to NBE a bit odd. They're diametrically opposed goals on multiple levels, not to mention one is far more socially acceptable than the other for genetic males. If I went to a bookstore or somewhere, I'm sure I could find numerous magazines advising how I could bulk up by lifting weights and ingesting protein shakes. The same couldn't be said for NBE, at least not for genetic males.

The loss of testosterone for bodybuilders is an unintended consequence, whether NBE pursuers want to do this to promote breast growth. With the latter group, the decline of sex drive, sperm count, testicles, etc. is not necessarily a curse.

What do you do to lower testosterone?
can the dose be adjusted so you can lower it just a little?
and when you stop taking the drug does testosterone recover

I imagine taking pm or any of similarly effective NBE herb would lower testosterone. It's reasonable to assume I think that if you're developing breast tissue, your testosterone levels must have declined. As to whether your testosterone levels go back up after discontinuing NBE herbs I think it really depends on numerous factors such as age, how long you've been taking NBE herbs, and what kind of condition your testicles are in. If you're deeply concerned about preserving your testosterone levels, I don't think pursuing NBE would be a wise choice for you.

I think one sexy bitch is correct high ramp then low cycles as many others are

Pm lowers my t but also balances by giving e

The giving of e is actually very important so too bring balance rather than let t just ramp

Just lowering t may not just be enough , besides I want too grow

Julie

Blah. Good riddance to any testosterone I can get rid of I say! I'll never be low enough until I get rid of my testes, and then I might actually possibly risk getting too low. Maybe. If that DOES happen, I'll find ways to upreg the testosterone from my pituitary to compensate. No big.