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Just saw this today. Really sad.
Pensioner, 75, wants to be a man again
I suspect that moderate suppression of androgen in the womb produces these halfway cases (like me) who would like to be female, but remain heterosexual, and only need hormone treatment to remove depression.
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28-11-2012, 03:14 PM
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People just need to be brutally honest with themselves and take it very slowly before GRS, these cases seem to be far more common (while still very rare) for transitions that happened in the 80s when the standards of care weren't so well developed.
Now most of them are avoided by requiring extensive psychiatric assessment and years of full-time real life experience (which seem to be 2 things that weren't done in this case), then psychiatric revaluation and approval before GRS.
HRT's effects is one thing, almost everything else is reversible except breasts (and some people stay permanently sterile), but GRS is another, a completely irreversible process that will dramatically change your life (including cutting off your natural hormones so theres no way back). Personally I feel, having some trepidation before GRS is perfectly normal, which is why I'm not sure if I will ever be ready for it and I don't feel weird about it, I'd rather take 10 years living full-time before I take the leap.
Not everyone is the same, others know from a very young age, have intense very specific gender dysphoria, even in these cases HRT and RLE are required. But that shouldn't preclude late onset people from considering GRS, just they should take their time.
Also there are plenty of MTF that are happy and still only attracted to women, and many success stories of lesbian trans women being accepted by other lesbians, however if the only reason to transition is purely sexual then there is something wrong imo.
But nonetheless, these stories are an important warning!
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I agree, this is quite a sad story. It's quite unfortunate her doctors fast tracked her for GRS rather than listen to her concerns and explore her motives for crossdressing. Being disowned by her family I think only intensifies the tragedy of her situation.
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Sad, sad, sad
By the way... where have you been, Bryony? Seems like you have been MIA recently. Everything okay?
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(28-11-2012, 08:36 PM)Samantha Rogers Wrote: Sad, sad, sad
By the way... where have you been, Bryony? Seems like you have been MIA recently. Everything okay?
Hi,
Fine, thanks for asking... I just took a break for a while, and then dropped back into lurk mode. Sometimes there's nothing to say! (Especially when I say it!).
TTFN
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This is sad... Which is why I always warn people to be absolutely dead certain where they stand on the spectrum and how much they want before starting on this road.
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Sad Story, And also an unfortunate Example of how an In-Between was beaten/fooled/directed into one side of a imposed Binary Mold.
& WB Bryony.
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29-11-2012, 02:51 AM
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(28-11-2012, 02:50 PM)bryony Wrote: Just saw this today. Really sad.
Pensioner, 75, wants to be a man again
I suspect that moderate suppression of androgen in the womb produces these halfway cases (like me) who would like to be female, but remain heterosexual, and only need hormone treatment to remove depression.
B.
Thanks SO much for posting this. As has already been said, it is a shame people get pushed into the BINARY world of "....boy? or girl?, choose!"...
I am quite sure we ALL go thru the binary trap of questioning (I know I did) and it takes a long time, if ever, to finally "get it" that maybe, just maybe, we do not have to choose.
Someday society will allow it --- I hope.
I think one of the singularly MOST influential persons in this regard has emerged in the past year or so --- the Serbian-born Australian-raised model Andrej Pejic. Andrej seems so comfortable being WHO he is and making no excuses for it. My hope is so many of the next generation of gender-challenged boys (and girls) can see that there are more options than just boy or girl. In my case, my answer to the question "Are you a boy or a girl?" has now been "Yes, I am." for 15 years now --- but it took a long time to come to grips with that.
Just because we were born with male genitals does not make us men or masculine, not at all.
Thanks so much for sharing the learning, and my heart goes out to Gary that he finds peace soon as he deals with this heartbreaking situation.
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(29-11-2012, 02:51 AM)robin_beales Wrote: Thanks SO much for posting this. As has already been said, it is a shame people get pushed into the BINARY world of "....boy? or girl?, choose!"...
I am quite sure we ALL go thru the binary trap of questioning (I know I did) and it takes a long time, if ever, to finally "get it" that maybe, just maybe, we do not have to choose.
Someday society will allow it --- I hope.
I think one of the singularly MOST influential persons in this regard has emerged in the past year or so --- the Serbian-born Australian-raised model Andrej Pejic. Andrej seems so comfortable being WHO he is and making no excuses for it. My hope is so many of the next generation of gender-challenged boys (and girls) can see that there are more options than just boy or girl. In my case, my answer to the question "Are you a boy or a girl?" has now been "Yes, I am." for 15 years now --- but it took a long time to come to grips with that.
Just because we were born with male genitals does not make us men or masculine, not at all.
Thanks so much for sharing the learning, and my heart goes out to Gary that he finds peace soon as he deals with this heartbreaking situation.
I quite agree on all points!
The big problem with this poor fellow is that in order to relieve GID depression/anxiety, he needed the hormones which sent him down the path which was probably inevitable in those days. When I think of the state that my mind was in just over a year ago, it's like a bad dream.
What we need for the (possibly large) body of people who have this problem, but are too old to go through the all the shennanigans of masquerade, is a way to get the hormones without having to jump through the hoops - most importantly if in an established "traditional" family situation (getting rarer, I suppose).
I don't know if it's changing here in the UK; I have heard that some US states are addressing this now. I haven't enquired at the MD because PM fills the need for me.... I got here with a fascination for growing my own breasts, and found mental therapy.
That's the main reason I contribute from time to time - to make people like me, who may be new to the forum, aware that this is an option.
TTFN
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Interesting article, but one very significant detail just screams for clarification: Gillian/Gary claims that within months of taking the pills prescribed by his GP, he grew breasts and his beard stopped growing!!
Breasts in months in a male that has completed male puberty, unlikely, but maybe.
Beard stopped growing: never would happen, not even on pharmaceutical hormones. It seems an insignificant detail, but anyone who has transitioned would know the real deal since electrolysis is SO time consuming, painful and expensive, but an ESSENTIAL step in achieving passability.
This alone makes me suspect the whole story as sensational fiction to attract readers. But thanks for the interesting read.
