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when does a chest officially look like female breasts

#11

I have been taking three types herb capsules for more than a month.
Also, I apply suction everyday for 30 minutes.
There is definitely some fullness now with very sensitive, protruding nipples but no jiggling yet.
I don't think it could pass as a female bust yet, but I'm hoping.
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#12

(21-09-2012, 07:15 AM)Tiffany314 Wrote:  I'd love the effects of PM but can't risk the sterile or function loss risk. I want kids one day and love my gf very much.....Even though she has no idea what im doing, and i'm keeping it under wraps and blaming the hormonal imbalance excuse and hoping it works, dont want to lose her, but dont want to lose myself not getting the breasts i seek.
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Always interested to see if others are in my situation of a gf who ois accepting just not accepting of induced breast growth and how they keep the gf/wife at bay and ok

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Hey Tiffany,

If your gf found out, how would she react? Trust and honesty are so very important in a relationship. How would you react if you found out she was secretly taking testosterone to fix a hormonal imbalance and it caused her to become more manly? Would you still want to be with her? It's definitely not an easy situation to be in. Think how much worse it would be if she found out what you were doing from someone other than you.

The good news is that, in truth, you probably do have a hormone imbalance or a mental condition, which is why your body is craving estrogen. I think that's why we're all here. If taking PM (or other NBE herbs) cures that craving, then one could say that the side effects are breast growth and reduced sex drive. Not all side effects have to be bad. Wink

Anyway, as my picture above was intended to convey, your relationship is in jeopardy of being involved in a colossal train wreck if you're not careful. Put on the brakes and scout out the tracks ahead. There's likely a safe route to reach your goals, but not always. You just have to do the best you can in a way that leaves you feeling like you're the type of person you'd be happy to have as a friend. That's the type of person your gf deserves.

Good luck!
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#13

I would try PM if I could get it.
The local nutrition and vitamin stores do not carry it.
Must it be purchased on line?
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#14

Hey, Goodmorning! Smile
If my GF had found out that I was intentionally growing breasts, the reaction would honestly in opinion be crucial. Not in a good resulting way lol. When we first began dating, it was summer, she has a pool would always invite me to swim. I had began NBE in 2010, so before we met.. Had slight growth but enough to give cleavage when on my side and hang when i bend over. So dating a girl first since starting was tough to me, wanted it to work and voiced my self conciousness about it and she was genuine about it, said she don't care, could care less, i had intentions prior to start back up, just a matter of when, so i asked her....What if it ever got worse, as in bigger like needed a bra bigger. She said doesn't matter I'd support you i dont care about that stuff.... sorry so long just stating that to say, about a year into our relationship i took pm for a few months again, lower doses between 500 a day and 1500 a day after building a resistance per se to it. Mental changes had me thinking i was a female in a male body, i know now i just want breasts so am very careful with what i take. Only say this because during my stint with PM and the mental changes, i couldnt hold back bringing up that i think i might be trans (in the bedroom we roleplay a lot and a lot of times she is the man and im wearing the dresses heels etc even underwear and bras when we werent, she was fine with it) till i mentioned the trans thing, now since then any mention of female characteristic is shot down. Shaved my legs and arms, no longer do, says since that comment (even though i retracted it saying it was just fantasy gone wrong due to going on long) which was partly true, but since that comment she feels a part of me wants to be a woman and it takes away her femininity, which is understandable i assume most women would think that.
If i had not mentioned the trans thing and kept my mouth closed i assure she would be ok with me having breasts, assuming its a hormonal imbalance, which i have dr reports showing i have had in the past, she is away of gynecomastia and knows it can get out of hand, but since i mentioned the trans thing about 4 months ago, im sure she'd think im takign something, though there is nothing to show that i am Wink
Sorry so long, my posts show i have a habit of over explaining :'(

If she was secretly taking testosterone I'd be honestly perfectly okay with it, all i would ask is for her to keep legs and arms shaved. Not a female thing just a hair thing, body hair to me is DISGUSTING! She knows this, when we met i shaved daily for first few months before watching a episode of taboo on transgenders and crossdressers and now she associates that with that, crazy, very jump to conclusion kind of girl lol. Plus if it was to FIX a hormonal imbalance, thats fine, if it is to CREATE one thats fine too, but i understand where someone may be insulted that their significant other is trying to induce something to gain physical features in which may be unpleasant for the other. I mean with I'd say a cup breasts you can still take your shirt off if you're confident lol. Which i am. Wasnt but cause of her encouragement to embrace it not erase it i feel much better. Don't even think twice of what ppl may think just do it. Now if she was getting a bigger clit, deeper voice, manlier features, good for her, let her be herself, i am there to support her, its about the heart not the body, if i loved her before she wanted to change, i can love her after it, and still find her absolutely stunning in whatever she goes through cause of whats in her heart.

I understand it would cause emotional destsruction if someone came up to her like "hey do you know the real reason your boyfriends chest is getting bigger? its cause he's using breast growth supplements i promise you this i have proof" lol but thats the thing about a secret, its a secret. Many of you on here have very VERY very supporting wives, and i applaud you of that, i dream of the day my gf or any gf if this relationship doesnt work out, which after a year invested i'd like to think it will, but dream of the day i tell her about me wanting female breasts and her sayign if it makes you happy im ok with it. But i know while she is the most accepting person i know, accepting doesnt always mean intimate, and i know if i told her that i was doing this it would cause our relationship to fall on its face and end, she'd still want to be friends, i couldnt do that, it would just end. Im certain of that, i could be wrong but i dont believe i am.
I also understand some people go through life not knowing what the other is doing and or has done or why things have happened. I have a hormonal imbalance past, she knows it, she knows i was detrimentally ashamed of it, she knows i still peak in the mirror to act concerned, keyword act. Until i am comfortable telling her i am just going to use the imbalance factor. It sucks, i hate it, but its life, not all of us are blessed with a woman who is ok with this kind of thing. Plus im 26 not 50-60 like others are who's wives may think, its gonna happen naturally, kids are grown and out, bills are good, why not.
Hey Tiffany,

I completely agree! Idk what the mental condition or physiological condition would be, but its something. A typical male does not feel the need to feminize his body, especially take the most noticed feature on a man, his chest (fitted clothing, gym wear, jogging, beach, pool, its always exposed in some manner) and turning it into a protruding round big nippled breast. Its not "normal" its definitely something inside of us that craves it and NEEDS it not just wants it to want it, but to feel whole. We all understand with kids, family, wives, gf's, bf's, etc it can be permanently damaging. But in the end its about unconditional love. Some of us can be straight up, others have to hide the reason, in the end its about loving the person no matter what, i am not going to alter my sex, i plan to have kids, and i plan to make her the happiest woman in the world, if me having breasts makes her choose another road and guy, i understand it cause not many women im sure see a man with female round breasts not man boobs but breasts and go ow ow he is sexy as hell. I understand physical attraction must be there for emotional, spiritual, attractions to take place and sustain. Just hope she is as open minded and accepting as i'd like to believe she is.
I am stickign with natureday, sp, and fg and flax oil extract. No more pm for quite some time, i noticed it has caused my semen to maintain a cloudy clear form and penis has shrunk slightly, while i wouldnt mind the penis being 3 in its the semen that worries me, i want kids and i want them to be from my semen lol. It scares me to think i have ruined that, or cause weak semen which in turn could cause a child to be mentally handicap during development of brain and such. But agree, if it cures the craving and it isnt hurting ourselves but bettering ourselves to us then why not do it, we live once, and when we die if returned to Heaven our bodies will be returned to that of a child, flawless and natural, so if my body returns back to that of a flat chested male, at least let me have the breasts i want for the years im here lol
I know my gf doesnt deserve me, i understand changing your body in this way is very betraying without informing first, just knowing her reaction would suppress this in me even longer....not a strong person to where i can just walk away if not accepted, i'll change and pretend to be happy. I know its not the wisest choice but its the only choice i feel i have, all my life i have felt something missing and now i found it, and i'm supposed to hold it back till we break up or wait till were in our 50's and play the nature taking place card instead of hormonal imbalance or wait till one of us passes lol. It sucks, it really does, beats me up every time i apply soap and cream to my chest and pop a pill, but i know good or bad result relationship wise, i'll be a happier person in the end. All my life i have changed for others and adapted to how they wanted me to be, this time i just cant

Thanks for listening, have a blessed day Smile
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(21-09-2012, 01:14 PM)lisa5w Wrote:  I have been taking three types herb capsules for more than a month.
Also, I apply suction everyday for 30 minutes.
There is definitely some fullness now with very sensitive, protruding nipples but no jiggling yet.
I don't think it could pass as a female bust yet, but I'm hoping.

Lisa,
A month is nowhere near enough time for anything serious to be happening, I'm afraid.
What usually happens in the first few weeks and may well be what you are experiencing, is the beginning of fat deposition in the breast area, in female style.

Actual breast tissue growth typically takes up to about 3 months to start, although a lucky few do get it sooner than that, and it may be at least partly age dependant. You'll know when it really starts because you'll feel some sort of discomfort or even pain in the nipples, itching, and a hard lump behind the nipples probably about pea size when you first notice it.

To grow to anything like mature female breasts you have to be thinking in terms of at least 3 or 4 years, just like any girl at puberty.
I don't want to be a wet blanket, but equally I don't want you to get discouraged with over optimistic expectations.

FWIW, and to perhaps give you some idea of what you might get in time, my boobs had their 2nd birthday last week!
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#16

(21-09-2012, 02:35 PM)lisa5w Wrote:  Must it be purchased on line?

Basically, Yes, as far as I know.
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#17

Yes, I'm aware that it's only been a few weeks.
But, I have noticed a couple of SMALL changes.
My nipples definitely protrude more and are itchy.
When they are erect there is a mass behind them in the areolas, though small
Also, my bras used to ride up all the time and now not as much.
It seems I'm not quite as flat as I used to be.
Congrats to your breasts on their second birthday.
I have a long way to go, but I'm liking it so far.
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#18

Sounds like you could be one of the lucky ones then keep your fingers crossed that it continues like thatSmile
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#19

I do not have anyone... And although I am slightly attracted to other women sexually, I am much much more vastly attracted to men. Usually when I get horny, It's a man I want.

It's not like I can do anything about it right now though. My exterior still appears far too male to attract any hetero males, and I'm not gay.

Anyways... Honestly. I think the answer to the OP is: Whenever you have it in your mind that they are breasts, they are breasts. No matter what size they are. As soon as my nipples were protruded and being chafed by normal clothing, I considered myself as having breasts. Granted, I'm TS...
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#20

(21-09-2012, 10:52 AM)Tiffany314 Wrote:  What cup size are you. Saw your last upload and wow you have grown beautifully when u walk even with the towel don't they bounce and jiggle anyway? I am hoping to Bea c cup someday and hopefully the gf is convinced of hormone imbalances :/

Yes, Pansy-mae has really bloomed in the last several months, even though it may not have felt that way.

Once I got to a solid B cup, I also had to stop pretending they don't move around quite a bit when I move. I actually "show" less if I wear something tighter for a shirt or a support garment underneath. At a public beach, I also use the draped towel or t-shirt thing, it works well. I tried going with a very loose tank top, but it was blindingly obvious what I had after it got wet. I just took it off.

Good luck with the hormone imbalance thing as they grow. Unless you have the most gullible gf I ever heard of she already knows or at least strongly suspects, never mind as you get bigger and more rounded. Either way best of luck with your progress both with your body and your relationship.
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