[PerkyAcups]

 I can’t believe how far I have come.  I started growing breasts as a kink.  With no intentions of transitioning or cross dressing.  I was 100% in the males staying male camp.  In the beginning I loved the rush of fear I got with every dose of PM. Knowing I could possibly grow permanent breasts, but I kept saying I didn’t want anything permanent.  Just enjoying the rush.  As I started seeing growth my mind shifted to wanting just a little bit of permanent breasts, just for the rush of having them.  Many of you have commented on my posts saying it sounds like I really do want breasts, but won’t admit it to myself.  Looking back, you were right.  I kept taking PM until I had noticeable permanent breasts, but I was still in the male staying male category.  Other than shaving my chest, which I have always done, nothing had changed. 
 
My breasts had gotten to the point I needed some support and effort to hide them.  I tried a few options. Tank tops, nipple covers. I figured out pullover invisible minimizer bras worked best.  I got the support I needed, I looked better in shirts, and you couldn’t tell I was wearing a bra.  I was wearing bras daily, but mentally still solidly in the male staying male category.   
 
A few months ago, I sat down with my wife. I told her I intentionally grew breasts.  Later telling her I like my body presenting feminine under my clothes, but I still wanted to present as a male like I always do on the outside.  I told her I like being smooth and wearing panties and a bra.  She was surprisingly supportive.   After discussing all this with my therapist I decided to embrace this feminine side a little.
 
I shaved my beard. Shaving my armpits and legs.  I am hairless from head to toe.  I threw away all my male underwear. Replacing them with 12 pairs of Victoria Secret panties.  Mostly hip huggers, with a couple boy shorts in case I need to go to the doctor or something.  I threw away my male pajama shorts replacing them shorter female shorts. I bought a couple more bras in different colors.  My underwear drawer is now 100% female.  My only option is panties and a bra going forward.  I also have embraced more of a feminine routine. Using lavender lotion on my body.  Using face creams.  Switching to female deodorant.
 
I don’t know that I totally fall into the male staying male category anymore.  I have no intentions of transitioning.  I am still not into crossdressing.  I still feel myself in boots and jeans. But I am very comfortable in bras, panties, and being smooth.  I have a daily routine to feminize my body.   I am starting to like going out with shorter male shorts that show more leg.  Tight sweatpants that shape my legs with flip flops.  I have gotten more comfortable wearing a bra and my breasts showing through shirts.   I would say I am at a perfectly balanced point right now.  But I guess time will tell if this progresses further.
 
Have any of you been here?  Where you able to maintain this or did your feminization continue further? What was your next steps?

[Stevenator_]

HRT

[Stevenator_]

Seriously though, I haven't owned any male underwear in 20+ years. I was in the males staying male until I realized that estrogen had its firm grip on me.

I still dress fully male when in public. I was at the American Legion bar yesterday, and no one knows.

I've gone so far as only buying female t-shirts, tank tops, leggings & such. Anything that was female clothing, but looked androgynous. I've got one whole chest of draws that's nothing but female clothing. Nothing that screams female, but looks androgynous. Once you get the feminine hips, ass & thighs, then men's pants don't fit the same.

The longer you take PM, the more you'll crave it. You might as well realize that HRT is the way to go. It's a much more cleaner drug than herbs. You'll be giving your liver a break too once you go on HRT. A healthy liver is vital to good results. You'll be giving your wallet a break, too.

I'm married, and fully male in public. I'm a IndyCar/Nascar/NHRA photographer, too. I run a Motorsports website. I can redneck with the best of them.

I do not blur the lines between public & private persona. I dress male in public, and drink beer & act redneck with the best of the drunks. You don't have to transition, just because you're on HRT.

I'm glad I finally switched to HRT, and I wished I'd done it sooner.

Best of Luck to You.

[huckleberrywine]

Hi Perky,

I'm at that tipping point as well. My goal has always been to stay 100% male but with some nice breasts that I could keep hidden under my manly man clothes. But along with feminine changes to my chest, comes the mental and emotional changes as well. Every so often I  stop taking my NBE supplements for a week to give my system a break and find myself craving estrogen  and can't wait to get back on my routine. 
My wife is not as accepting as yours , so I keep my bra wearing to a minimum when she's around.  However, she has taken pleasure  in buying me lavender and pink shirts, tees, hoodie and polos.  Around the house,  im always either in leggings or bike shorts. My boobs and perky nipples clearly show through the thin tees and have a nice bounce as i walk. I've gone hairless as well and picked up a Braun epilator to reduce the shaving stubble. 

I've come to a realization that though I'm not transitioning, I am in a transformation to a more feminine version of myself. One that I am comfortable with. My wife is coming around slowly. 

Hang in there, my friend. 
Huck

[PerkyAcups]

Seriously though, I haven't owned any male underwear in 20+ years. I was in the males staying male until I realized that estrogen had its firm grip on me.

I still dress fully male when in public. I was at the American Legion bar yesterday, and no one knows.

I've gone so far as only buying female t-shirts, tank tops, leggings & such. Anything that was female clothing, but looked androgynous. I've got one whole chest of draws that's nothing but female clothing. Nothing that screams female, but looks androgynous. Once you get the feminine hips, ass & thighs, then men's pants don't fit the same.

The longer you take PM, the more you'll crave it. You might as well realize that HRT is the way to go. It's a much more cleaner drug than herbs. You'll be giving your liver a break too once you go on HRT. A healthy liver is vital to good results. You'll be giving your wallet a break, too.

I'm married, and fully male in public. I'm a IndyCar/Nascar/NHRA photographer, too. I run a Motorsports website. I can redneck with the best of them.

I do not blur the lines between public & private persona. I dress male in public, and drink beer & act redneck with the best of the drunks. You don't have to transition, just because you're on HRT.

I'm glad I finally switched to HRT, and I wished I'd done it sooner.

Best of Luck to You.

Stevenator, you and I would probably enjoy drinking a few beers together. I am into motorsports, but two wheels.  I rode motocross and enduros for years.  Work in the powersports industry.  I raise cattle.  

Even after being off PM for over a year these feminine urges keep coming back stronger.  I don't know if I have subconsciously always had these urges or if NBE rewired my brain.  I don't plan on going back on PM or HRT.  For now I am going to settle into a new norm of panties and fully shaved under my normal male clothes.

[PerkyAcups]

Hi Perky,

I'm at that tipping point as well. My goal has always been to stay 100% male but with some nice breasts that I could keep hidden under my manly man clothes. But along with feminine changes to my chest, comes the mental and emotional changes as well. Every so often I  stop taking my NBE supplements for a week to give my system a break and find myself craving estrogen  and can't wait to get back on my routine. 
My wife is not as accepting as yours , so I keep my bra wearing to a minimum when she's around.  However, she has taken pleasure  in buying me lavender and pink shirts, tees, hoodie and polos.  Around the house,  im always either in leggings or bike shorts. My boobs and perky nipples clearly show through the thin tees and have a nice bounce as i walk. I've gone hairless as well and picked up a Braun epilator to reduce the shaving stubble. 

I've come to a realization that though I'm not transitioning, I am in a transformation to a more feminine version of myself. One that I am comfortable with. My wife is coming around slowly. 

Hang in there, my friend. 
Huck

thanks Huck, appreciate all the comments.  Even off NBE I can't shake these feminine mental changes.  Like you said, I am transformed into a more feminine version of myself. I am finding it to be very comfortable.  I feel at ease in my panties and smooth legs.  Part of me still is so shocked I am saying this.  5 years ago, no way I would have thought that.

[Mindhak]

Hey guys,

I’m in the same boat.  I was on HRT for 2 months and got close to an A cup.  Stopped it and everything that slowed down came back.  My girlfriend loves sucking on them but she said don’t get bigger.  

When not on HRT the nipple sensitivity is not the same.    I measure and I am about or just under an A cup but yesterday I started back up I want to get to a small B.  Enough to hide easily but will give me more jiggle then now as I can feel it a little:  

The HRT did not change my mind or maybe it did ha but I want to stay a male with fem features.

When I was on the dating app I would tell woman I took the wrong vitamins and it started to grow looking like a woman’s and 90% wanted to still meet me.  

If your single your target is now bisexual woman.  They will accept and love them for the most part.  More so if they look and feel like woman’s.

[Mindhak]

Of course let’s say I was thrown into a prison and they put estrogen in my daily food supply where I had no choice but to transition that wouldn’t be a bad thing.  

Hell, let me commit some bank robberies as a man first go on hiding for three years and they come out as a woman when they’re looking for a man. Haha

[PerkyAcups]

Of course let’s say I was thrown into a prison and they put estrogen in my daily food supply where I had no choice but to transition that wouldn’t be a bad thing.  

I know exactly what you mean.  take it out of my control. If it happens, it happens.  I don't think I would be upset.

[Heaven's Night]

How do the changes make you feel? Forgetting about all the external stuff like clothes and categories and all that mumbo jumbo... How does it feel? Feeling like this is right thing to do? You're more at home with your body and feeling better than before? Peace of mind? Ease of existing? If the anwer is yes then what are you hesitating about? Be you, do you, do what is right.

Going on HRT for a while to try and see how its like is a good idea, its usually very telling and your body will absolutely not make you miss it if its a thing for you or not. Because if you'e just an ordinary dude, you wouldn't be this far and HRT in particular would not make you feel better but CAUSE a massive wave of dysphoria. This is a fact, its been tried and tested many times. Like for example, you know the somewhat controversial innovator Dr. Powers who has peculiar ideas about feminising HRT? He tried conventional HRT at one point on himself and then stopped after it made him feel dysphoric af, no shit as he's a cis sex man whos body isn't meant to run on female hormone balance.

Try it and see what happens? 3-6 months and you'll know for sure if its your thing or not.