[thetuscanyguy]

Newish member of Breast Nexum and have thought about trying for some growth for years. I am older male closing in on 60 so fertility is not a real concern to me.

I recently took the plunge and started with taking PM along with Red Reishi for a month or two but did get scared away after reading about the increase incidence of blood clots. In that short time I did notice some changes for sure. Breasts felt "different" and I think there was some growth. They would occasionally feel sore and my nipples felt bigger and more sensitive. My skin was definitely softer and I really noticed changes with my testicles shrinking and erections softer and smaller too (thats ok with me lol).

So after taking a break after PM I discovered BO and of course dove right in. I have been taking BO along with Reishi for about a month now and think i am back to where I left off with PM. I am not taking a real high dose right now and just doing 1 capsule of each morning and night. Not sure if I should be adding anything else right now? I do have some fenugreek caps I could take but didn't want it to effect the changes I am seeing to date. Maybe i will add it later.

Just looking to document my progress here like others have done. I am open to any suggestions/comments. (In the picture with the dress on I am wearing a padded bra but that is what my goal looks like)

[tomi66]

Welcome thetuscanyguy,
I can tell you a little about my program and what was recommended to me, I am not a physician just someone who spent 2 years on BO.

I started with 250 mg late afternoon and 250 before bed. = 500mg day

After a month I increased that by adding a 250 before bed for 500mg. = 750 day

After another month add 250 mg late afternoon beforebed stayed the same= 1000 mg day.

Month 3 I was tolerating it well so I added 1 late afternoon and one before bed. 250 each. = 1500 day

Month 4 I repeated the process.

From what I have read from others in the group 1600 mg a month has been considered optimal, I went a little higher than that for a year as my body tolerated it well and I am looking for a very feminine body.

I eventually leveled out to 1500 a day before switching to estradiol at the end of year 2. I have stopped BO fore the time being, in 3 months after I do my labs I will reevaluate adding BO.

It's been reported that progesterone cream on the breasts disrupts the development process so you may want to reevaluate where you apply that. I would apply it to my scrotum after about a year. I did use a BO based estrogen cream on my breasts and gonads, eventually on my face and under arms.

I also took iodine to boost metabolism for an increase in body temp, optimum is 98.6.

Other supplements: DHEA, D3 K2, selenium, 2 high protein shakes.

I didn't add any anti androgen to my program because Lotus reported that BO is also an anti androgen.

Remember it's a marathon not a sprint.

I hope my suggestions help. Best of luck!

[thetuscanyguy]

Thank you for your reply Tomi66. Just curious of what brand of BO you were using (I am taking Swanson's). Definitely looking at upping my dosage and your program seems to be what I would want. Would you recommend dropping the RR for now then? Curious as to how much growth you were able to see after taking the BO for 2 years?

[tomi66]

I used transfemm for a year and then Swanson for a year. Two inches growth in that year. It was a struggle to keep from gaining weight, especially with the increased protein intake, I drank 3 high quality protein shakes a day.

I really can't speak to the RR, I never used it as BO is also an AA. I did take Petuitary Glandular, however Lotus said it wasn't necessary with BO, it was already part of the transfemm supplements and I just carried on with it when I switched to Swanson.

I have since switched to estradiol for feminization purposes, and have lost a substantial amount of weight, mostly change of diet and dropping the protein shakes.

[Jesse]

Normally, I'm just a lurker (first post), but I've read so many threads containing worries about blood clots and DVT.  I'm not a doctor, just someone who is an ardent follower of natural medicines etc. (hence why I visit this board).  Not to advise you what to do, but I take nattokinase to prevent any blood clotting issues.  I also naturally thin my blood using things like garlic, turmeric etc. (you can look this up).

I know natto works because I developed blood clots and successfully got rid of them.  I could feel them.  They were painful and warm.  Gone.  If you've ever had blood clots, you know the feeling.  I also had vericose veins and got rid of them using red vine leaf.  Try it.  It's all about the blood.

To bring this back on topic somewhat, I've taken PM for 2 years and BO for about 1 year.  Went from 43" to 48".  Somewhere between a B cup and a C cup.  Planning on stopping at a D (unless boob greed grabs me).

I think the real growth started when I ditched the PM extracts and switched to Barlowes (Barlowes.com or Amazon).

It's tough to know what the actual combination that works for me because I take quite a few supplements other than just for NBE.  I am also concerned about hair loss.  Both hair loss and boob growth are affected by DHT.  Get the DHT under control (along with PM and/or BO) and your boobs will grow.