I`m still not convinced about this autogyno-nonsense, see, what if you`re actually female, always have been always will be, just the body side of things didn`t quite line up.
there`s no "going from a man to a woman" there was no "Man" there to begin with! you can`t become something you already are LOL.

the trouble is that he didn`t beleive that the above is true and set about to find alterior motive behind it, to Me and people Like me, the above is just the plain a simple truth of it, it`s nothing complicated at all. but for Others (not trans*) it`s absolutely incomprehensible!
they simply cannot accept the pure simplicity of it, it has to be something else, something they Can accept, so they make shit up and try to make Us fit Them.

really rather imature if you ask me!

I think it's really important that people in these communities give each other space to explore who they are. It's very easy to want to slap a label on things (transgender, crossdresser, autogynephilia, non-binary, etc.) That does serve a purpose, but it can also be limiting.

We've all been repressed by society and that creates lasting wounds. It's easy to take it out on each other. I know I'm bitter and jealous of the young trans women who pass (even before hormones sometimes!). I know that I'd also be jealous of people on Rx hormones if I wasn't able to get them (I still have 2 months before my first doctor appointment! And I'm almost 40).

One quick thing about AG, it does have a very sad history in the trans community. I'm not here to word police or anything like that, but if anyone would like to know more about this, Julia Serano writes about this in her book "Whipping Girl" and more recently here:
http://www.juliaserano.com/av/Serano-CaseAgainstAutogynephilia.pdf

I think it's really important that people in these communities give each other space to explore who they are. It's very easy to want to slap a label on things (transgender, crossdresser, autogynephilia, non-binary, etc.) That does serve a purpose, but it can also be limiting.

We've all been repressed by society and that creates lasting wounds. It's easy to take it out on each other. I know I'm bitter and jealous of the young trans women who pass (even before hormones sometimes!). I know that I'd also be jealous of people on Rx hormones if I wasn't able to get them (I still have 2 months before my first doctor appointment! And I'm almost 40).

One quick thing about AG, it does have a very sad history in the trans community. I'm not here to word police or anything like that, but if anyone would like to know more about this, Julia Serano writes about this in her book "Whipping Girl" and more recently here:
http://www.juliaserano.com/av/Serano-CaseAgainstAutogynephilia.pdf

One thing I do not understand. Surely, if this was a sexual thing then once the hormones and the AA's took effect, then the desire would drop ??
I have zero sex drive, it takes a lot of effort to even make him wake up, and i get no enjoyment from it at all.

Janet

yes once hormones kick in yes desire does drop,

problem is come off hormones it all kicks back in again,

so in many cases worldwide for poor souls who suffer from shall we say agp tendencies then, they have to transition to curb the excessive desires,

ie

one girl i Know was relieving herself up to 15 times per day
and on porn approx 6 hours per day

she had to go on hormones, now transitioned just to shut the desires up

she is now a woman BUT NEVER WANTED TO BE
 
and tbf I can understand her as similar


Julie

x

she had to go on hormones, now transitioned just to shut the desires up

she is now a woman BUT NEVER WANTED TO BE
 
and tbf I can understand her as similar


Julie

x

OMG! That`s Awefull !!!!!  

How is that even legal!? who allowed such a thing!? seriously... WTF!!!!?

ooh hang on Girl hang on

she asked for hormones, she had too, there was no choice,

but its more common thank you think , you dont have to be a so called woman trapped to
transition,

I dont feel like a woman trapped,

but if you head is running at a high sexual fantasy of wanting to be one , sometimes you have too just to lead a normal life

call it agp, cross dreaming, agp symptoms , what ever what ever,

You felt like a woman from a very early age , I didnt nor did she,

This thing hit her so hard on the back of the head late 40s, she could no longer lead a normal life

90% of her thoughts were fantasising about becoming a woman,


she did

she is happy

noise gone

but still would like to be a Man,

Julie

x

ooh hang on Girl hang on

she asked for hormones, she had too, there was no choice,

but its more common thank you think , you dont have to be a so called woman trapped to
transition,

I dont feel like a woman trapped,

but if you head is running at a high sexual fantasy of wanting to be one , sometimes you have too just to lead a normal life

call it agp, cross dreaming, agp symptoms , what ever what ever,

You felt like a woman from a very early age , I didnt nor did she,

This thing hit her so hard on the back of the head late 40s, she could no longer lead a normal life

90% of her thoughts were fantasising about becoming a woman,


she did

she is happy

noise gone

but still would like to be a Man,

Julie

x

That so sounds like me...66 now and the last 10 years have been constant constant noise in head...this year has REALLY gotten bad,so much so have finally reached out to a therapist to try and figure this out...24/7 all I can think about is being female.I put a bra on and in my head I think,this is how I am supposed to look...its just constant to the point I can hardly function even at work..its just constant...have even thought about trying to get the mones online to just make it go away..

Hi Breastman

feel for you

this is me too,

noise used to be

episodal but chronic , now its all the FUCKING TIME

HRT has helped the level go down, but its there every second of the day and night

not funny

we shall get through this together

x

Julie

Hi Breastman

feel for you

this is me too,

noise used to be

episodal but chronic , now its all the FUCKING TIME

HRT has helped the level go down, but its there every second of the day and night

not funny

we shall get through this together

x

Julie

Yeah Julie it sucks....crippling at times...going thru that phase right now where I have lost about 65lbs and working out,looking at all the reddit fat to fit transitions and thinking if I looked like that then this would all go away...then I switch to the MTF transitions and think damn I wish that were me....I can spend all day looking,reading,and then the day is gone and nothing gets done

Great topic guys. I have the same feelings. I thought im crazy. I have used pm and bo hoping it would clam the thoughts like many have said here. I too like the idea of the point of no return, crazy as it sounds. Ive been on and off pm and bo since 2014. I have those moments where im like wtf am I doing? Then that inner girl comes back with revenge. Its a crazy road of ups and downs.