(21-10-2016, 05:10 PM)jannet.duff Wrote: First, welcome to the forum.
(21-10-2016, 06:53 PM)Patrice Wrote:(21-10-2016, 05:10 PM)jannet.duff Wrote: First, welcome to the forum.
Thanks!
jannet.duff
Also, what is the best, and not actually too expensive, form of taking PM if I wanted to bypass the liver? I thought of Ainterol, is it a good brand of PM?
My feeling is the Ainterol liquid is the best route.
You don't mention if you are under doctors care for HRT or not, but if / when you sta1st on full HRT medication, you need to stop PM.
I will be surely taking cypro under medical supervision, but doctors in my country wont let me start full HRT untill 18. So I was thinking about something that could feminize me a little bit for these 2 years and not actually cause something like liver failure since cypro is already heavy.
Yeah, I would definitely stop taking PM while on HRT since it blocks it's activity. Additionaly, it's much easier to explain that you were taking herbal supplements rather than real estrogen ordered illegaly from the internet.
Is the Ainterol Liquid Extract really worth the price? Like the 30ml one costs more than 35 euros and they say" "30ml (1.01fl.oz) equal to 30000mg" and "One drop is close to 40mg " which means that if I took 12 drops daily (480mg), It would last only like 2 months. Isn't 35 euros + shipping is too much in comparison with capsules?
(22-10-2016, 03:53 AM)Lotus Wrote: Bio-identical E2 is what your aim is, correct?.
Anyways.... I'd wait and see what the cyperterone is doing to T and E2, then proceed, the results may be surprising (beneficial). How about your parents?, you didn't mention them, are they on board?
300 to 1,000 ng/dL for male Total T (avg)
15-60 pg/mL for male estrogen (avg)
good luck.![]()
L.
(22-10-2016, 03:53 AM)Lotus Wrote: Hi Patrice,Hi.
It would be wise to get labs to determine what's actually going on with plasma sex steroid values, (e.g., estrogen and Total Testosterone), though " free T " and " free E2 " goes even further in showing us the active parts of these.
Going DIY at any age has its risks (as you're well aware). Growth Hormones are quite active as a teen, as we age (25-30) we loose viable synthesis of GH, which indeed plays a huge part in hormone development, (feminizing would be part of that GH synthesis). PM reacts in the brain (hypothalamus) and liver. Changing neural pathways and signals might be more complicated than we think, meaning adding PM as a teen whose goal is to feminizing could be too risky as a teen. With cyproterone it just may (using PM) not work (meaning the pharmacology)......just my opinion.
Under a doctors care is good, I'm not sure the idea of partial feminizing though, I'd find out more info if possible, in today's HRT therapy things are changing, it may take some time finding someone who knows the correct (current) info. Bio-identical E2 is what your aim is, correct?.
Anyways.... I'd wait and see what the cyperterone is doing to T and E2, then proceed, the results may be surprising (beneficial). How about your parents?, you didn't mention them, are they on board?
300 to 1,000 ng/dL for male Total T (avg)
15-60 pg/mL for male estrogen (avg)
good luck.![]()
L.