(06-07-2015, 07:13 PM)ClaraKay Wrote: Iaboy,
You wrote, "Not to be exclusionary...", but that seems to be your intent.
When I look back to when I first joined, it wasn't as simple as "I'm a man who wants breasts", or "I want to transition". It was at the beginning of a journey to an unknown destination, a process of self-discovery.
I benefited from reading the posts of everyone in those early days. I'm glad I to been able to read the perspectives of all -- from Lotus, to Flamesabers, to Doodlebug, to Abbey Drew.
We've already taken steps to differentiate and segregate ourselves by creating several topical sub-sub forums. I think that's enough.
Clara
(06-07-2015, 08:35 PM)Miranda-nata-est Wrote: I have voted 'No' to this idea.
I came to this site not really knowing why and spent hour after hour soaking up everything that was here and as a result started a journey which started out as a mistaken belief that this was all a sexually based fetish of mine, traversed through being a bloke who wanted boobs until the true me became clear and I am now following the path to full transition.
I needed full and free access here (and elsewhere in internet land) in order to find myself and, having benefited hugely myself, I would not wish to place the smallest obstacle in the way of those who come after.
Miranda
(06-07-2015, 10:33 PM)OHboobs Wrote: I think this thread came about as a joke I said in another thread.
I don't know if the op was thinking of excluding access to all those that have transitioned, but I would assume not. And in reality, it's not a bad idea.
The type of information for a man who just wants to grow boobs vs. someone who wants to transition is different. i.e. Those that transition go on prescription meds to achieve their goals. That's not really an option for guys who just want some boob flesh.
Sure there are some that start off thinking that they just want breasts and then go all the way through transition and surgery. But there's also plenty that do not go any further.
And the reality is, there's no one good place for info for those that stop at the breasts. No place to have discussions about how to cycle so male function is not permanently lost, what type of bra to wear to help minimize the breasts and not be obvious to others that one is wearing one (as they are still presenting themselves as men) reactions from SO's and others upon discovery of breasts, etc.
Is some of that info on the forums? Yes, but it's scattered about and littered with stuff that doesn't apply.
So, yeah, I think a sub forum aimed at those that just want breasts would be useful (or at the very least some sort of thread icon indicating it as such). I'm sure the "breast growth for genetic males" probably started off with that intention, but it seems to have become more aimed at transgendered individuals. (and please don't take that to mean they are unwelcomed or anything along those lines.)
I know some will look at it as segregation, I look at it as an easier way to find the information and community they are looking for.
(06-07-2015, 10:33 PM)OHboobs Wrote: I think this thread came about as a joke I said in another thread.
I don't know if the op was thinking of excluding access to all those that have transitioned, but I would assume not. And in reality, it's not a bad idea.
The type of information for a man who just wants to grow boobs vs. someone who wants to transition is different. i.e. Those that transition go on prescription meds to achieve their goals. That's not really an option for guys who just want some boob flesh.
Sure there are some that start off thinking that they just want breasts and then go all the way through transition and surgery. But there's also plenty that do not go any further.
And the reality is, there's no one good place for info for those that stop at the breasts. No place to have discussions about how to cycle so male function is not permanently lost, what type of bra to wear to help minimize the breasts and not be obvious to others that one is wearing one (as they are still presenting themselves as men) reactions from SO's and others upon discovery of breasts, etc.
Is some of that info on the forums? Yes, but it's scattered about and littered with stuff that doesn't apply.
So, yeah, I think a sub forum aimed at those that just want breasts would be useful (or at the very least some sort of thread icon indicating it as such). I'm sure the "breast growth for genetic males" probably started off with that intention, but it seems to have become more aimed at transgendered individuals. (and please don't take that to mean they are unwelcomed or anything along those lines.)
I know some will look at it as segregation, I look at it as an easier way to find the information and community they are looking for.
(07-07-2015, 01:06 AM)Lotus Wrote: iaboy,
I support this idea and will moderate it for you, (meaning any attempts to derail the new thread will be placed in the trash can). The discussion section is a good place to start this new thread, (which anybody can do). Since the interests are so varied in the genetic male section (and without exclusions), posting a thread about males wanting breast growth and not to transition isn't an issue on this side of the board. The viewer can simply ignore the thread or manage their buddy lists to ignore certain BN members.
(07-07-2015, 01:06 AM)Lotus Wrote: iaboy,
I support this idea and will moderate it for you, (meaning any attempts to derail the new thread will be placed in the trash can). The discussion section is a good place to start this new thread, (which anybody can do). Since the interests are so varied in the genetic male section (and without exclusions), posting a thread about males wanting breast growth and not to transition isn't an issue on this side of the board. The viewer can simply ignore the thread or manage their buddy lists to ignore certain BN members.
(07-07-2015, 01:06 AM)Lotus Wrote: iaboy,
I support this idea and will moderate it for you, (meaning any attempts to derail the new thread will be placed in the trash can). The discussion section is a good place to start this new thread, (which anybody can do). Since the interests are so varied in the genetic male section (and without exclusions), posting a thread about males wanting breast growth and not to transition isn't an issue on this side of the board. The viewer can simply ignore the thread or manage their buddy lists to ignore certain BN members.
(07-07-2015, 05:00 AM)iaboy Wrote:(07-07-2015, 01:06 AM)Lotus Wrote: iaboy,
I support this idea and will moderate it for you, (meaning any attempts to derail the new thread will be placed in the trash can). The discussion section is a good place to start this new thread, (which anybody can do). Since the interests are so varied in the genetic male section (and without exclusions), posting a thread about males wanting breast growth and not to transition isn't an issue on this side of the board. The viewer can simply ignore the thread or manage their buddy lists to ignore certain BN members.
Thanks Lotus, I appreciate it. Sometimes the best flame thrower's are the hardest to just ignore tho. That is why the new section should be easier to maintain by simply "un-granting" access to a few who love to incite, not for just playing "Devil's Advocate" but to ignite flame throwing wars. We all know of a few who have showed their "true colors" of intolerance and self importance.
That is why by "Invitation" I meant open to all, but quickly closed to a few after them demonstrating their inability for subjective discussion and true helpfulness.
Where as right now, the powers that be cannot take decisive quick and full ban's due to worry of loosing valuable member in other area's of this great board. Believe me I do understand this having been a Web Site Admin for about 10 yrs. on and off.
The invitation to me would be all is welcome, but like a guest in any ones home, be a gracious visitor. If not, the door to this room will be closed to provocateurs. If that is beyond the realm any of the powers that be cannot reasonably be done, then maybe this idea should be shelved??? Other wise, you , Lotus, will be spending most of your research and help times trying to maintain law and order in a desolate area of the web site.
(08-07-2015, 12:39 AM)flamesabers Wrote:(07-07-2015, 01:06 AM)Lotus Wrote: iaboy,
I support this idea and will moderate it for you, (meaning any attempts to derail the new thread will be placed in the trash can). The discussion section is a good place to start this new thread, (which anybody can do). Since the interests are so varied in the genetic male section (and without exclusions), posting a thread about males wanting breast growth and not to transition isn't an issue on this side of the board. The viewer can simply ignore the thread or manage their buddy lists to ignore certain BN members.
Lotus,
Would you please clarify what you mean here? Do you mean you'll moderate the general discussion forum for those who want to post threads strictly pertaining to males who just want breasts (and not to transition) or do you have something else in mind?