[pom19]

LOL Pom.... I especially love the 2nd U tube one. He is HORIBLY funny. Leave it to Lotus to have the sickest mind, next to mine of course.. heheheehhe

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Well, I hope Lotus knows that those pics pumped up my T and not the videos. POM

[ellacraig]

Well.......

If I can pull this off someday then I'd consider it. but thanks gamer.





Btw, a "zerbert" is a raspberry!, ia here's something for yah, I posted a few months ago but so what, it's hysterical.

First raspberry
https://youtube.com/watch?v=VmZFKF-qdN0

About as funny as this, rotfl. it's gotta be Bruce Lee approved.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=9ZldUA3Qt8Y

Well that woman has some thighs and ass!

[twinklepose]

Just posted an AA question on my program. Could someone have a look please? Would be soooo grateful! x

[Lotus]

Just posted an AA question on my program. Could someone have a look please? Would be soooo grateful! x

Hey there Twinkie,

I see that outsider answered your question (thanks), SP has anti-estrogenic properties, thus this reason for the exclusion from some BN members, (it has some benefits though). But the fact that there's a better option with reishi only proves it makes a better fit for NBE.

Listed in this thread and is often overlooked is that Reishi "has" estrogenic properties and at the same time addresses DHT, which makes it a Win-Win.

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The ability to bind to human estrogen receptors (hERs) α and β of the ethanol extract of G. lucidum was confirmed by using the coactivator-bacterial alkaline phosphatase system.

Estrogen-like activity of ethanol extract of Ganoderma lucidum
http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007...008-0992-2

[twinklepose]

Just posted an AA question on my program. Could someone have a look please? Would be soooo grateful! x

Hey there Twinkie,

I see that outsider answered your question (thanks), SP has anti-estrogenic properties, thus this reason for the exclusion from some BN members, (it has some benefits though). But the fact that there's a better option with reishi only proves it makes a better fit for NBE.

Listed in this thread and is often overlooked is that Reishi "has" estrogenic properties and at the same time addresses DHT, which makes it a Win-Win.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

The ability to bind to human estrogen receptors (hERs) α and β of the ethanol extract of G. lucidum was confirmed by using the coactivator-bacterial alkaline phosphatase system.

Estrogen-like activity of ethanol extract of Ganoderma lucidum
http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007...008-0992-2

Thank you, Lotus. Been back on NBE (after a veeeeeeery long break) for a week short of two months and, as of today, am sporting two very achey nipples. Here we go - I can't tell you how incredibly excited I feel! xx

[Lotus]

@ Ella, yes she does.
@ POM, I know what you meant lol.
@ ia, lol



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[Lotus]

I'm sure most BN members already know about how a diet will help or sink a NBE program (and there's a ton of NBE diet plans out there on the WWW).

I think it's gotta be a combination of few them that's entirely possible to grow breasts even in the absence of supplements. And it will be somewhere between the Paleo & Mediterranean diet plans with a few other twists lol.

I'll post some of the basics, it would interesting to find some BN members who'd be interested as diet (food plan) partners (buddies lol).

[Lotus]

What foods promote NBE?

The following is only a partial list.

Foods that have or help increase estrogen

Apples
Cherries
Plums
Beets
Peppers
Cucumbers
Barley
Rice
Wheat
Sunflower seeds-High in protein which increases breast volume
Flax seeds
Parsley- stimulates the production of estrogen/regulates hormonal disorders
Clover
Chicken
Strawberries
Raspberries
Prunes
Pineapple
Watermelon
Peaches
Garlic
Onions
Winter squash
Green beans
Tomatoes
Papaya (green unripe, cook before consumption)
Potatoes
Pumpkin
Milk
Seafood-Sockeye Salmon, mussels
Yogurt
Licorice
Fenugreek
Fennel
Alfalfa sprouts-Phytoestrogen, promotes breast health
Kidney beans
Lima beans
Red beans
Asparagus
Lettuce
Red cabbage
Eggs
Protein shakes
Corn
Blueberries
Ginger
Prawns
Olives
Turmeric
Figs
Buckwheat


Foods that minimize testosterone


Garlic
Chicken
Fenugreek
Saw palmetto
Chick peas
Cherries
Black eyed peas
Fennel seeds
Whole grains


Foods that block DHT


Wheat germ
Sesame oil
Canola oil
Peanuts
Almonds
Macadamia nuts
Soy
Beta Sitosterol
Saw Palmetto
Spearmint
Pumpkin Seeds

What foods used in NBE?

Avocado-(fruit), rich in phytonutrients, high in potassium, alpha/beta carotene, contains healthy fatty acids, fast acting laxative, high in carbs, beta-sitosterol, vitamin E, vitamin A and Lutein (good for eye site), reduces free radicals, avocados contain D-Mannoheptulose (a rare seven carbon sugar) effective in hypoglycemia.


Avocados tend to block estrogen but promote progesterone. Avocado oil is a common ingredient in progesterone creams. Avocados have amino acids and vitamins that help promote mammary glands.

[Lotus]

From last year, although it still needs tweaking to include the most updated info, including more healthy fats. (Much more to come)

A typical day or a snap shot.

Breakfast: Oatmeal(T) with ground flaxseed (E), cup of unsweetened soymilk (E) strawberries and Greek yogurt (HGH)

Snack: Apple (E) with sunflower seed butter (E) plain yogurt (HGH)

Lunch: Roasted salmon (HGH) green beans (E),side salad ,bell peppers, carrots, red onion, all (E), sesame oil (dht) garlic (T). Forgot chick peas (T)

Snack: Cottage cheese (E), raw almonds (T) and blueberries (E)

Dinner: Oven roasted chicken breast (E & HGH) with roasted broccoli (E & T) with olive oil (T), cayenne, and garlic (T), and a baked sweet potato (E) with olive oil (T).

Snack: Greek yogurt(HGH) with flaxseed (E) crumbled dark chocolate (E), banana, (E) and almonds.(DHT)

Drink- water (filtered) 6-8 cups.


Sunflower seeds-High in protein which increases breast volume

Healthy Fats (HDL) = more hormone production

And you can switch out proteins, lean beef, and seafood, etc.

Foods promoting HGH- lean beef, Greek yogurt, wild salmon, almonds, organic chicken, organic eggs, tuna


Total calorie-2410 (which might be a lot for some)

Fat-125g 44%
Carbs-212g 33%
Protein 147g 23%

As far as cost I don't have that yet, so like I said just a snapshot. It should cover a growth cycle for a day because it touches on E, T, HGH and even DHT, which I could explain about those asap.

[Lotus]

Sorry for the redundancy, but in case you missed it, this is extremely important:

Considering the potential to block DHT and increase aromatase adding fatty acids makes sense, only don't forget a fitness plan.

Anti-androgenic activity of fatty acids.

In this study, we show that 5alpha-reductase derived from rat fresh liver was inhibited by certain aliphatic free fatty acids. The influences of chain length, unsaturation, oxidation, and esterification on the potency to inhibit 5alpha-reductase activity were studied. Among the fatty acids we tested, inhibitory saturated fatty acids had C12-C16 chains, and the presence of a C==C bond enhanced the inhibitory activity. Esterification and hydroxy compounds were totally inactive. Finally, we tested the prostate cancer cell proliferation effect of free fatty acids. In keeping with the results of the 5alpha-reductase assay, saturated fatty acids with a C12 chain (lauric acid) and unsaturated fatty acids (oleic acid and alpha-linolenic acid) showed a proliferation inhibitory effect on lymph-node carcinoma of the prostate (LNCaP) cells. At the same time, the testosterone-induced prostate-specific antigen (PSA) mRNA expression was down-regulated. These results suggested that fatty acids with 5alpha-reductase inhibitory activity block the conversion of testosterone to 5alpha-dihydrotestosterone (DHT) and then inhibit the proliferation of prostate cancer cells.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19353546

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I'd say to consider the many different options out there, currently I take coconut oil, (although not a GLA) I'd consider EPO, and from what I understand you can vary (trade off) between say (borage oil, EPO, flaxseed oil or others), which FSO isn't said to contain anti-aromatase properties. But I don't mind giving T a pass through anti-aromatase while on CO, I like it, but that's just my opinion, if you don't mind smelling like a nut, it's absolutely wonderful for soft soft hair.

http://www.livestrong.com/article/441704...-primrose/
http://www.drugs.com/drug-interactions/e...10681.html
https://www.consumerlab.com/reviews/Blac.../flaxseed/
http://www.livestrong.com/article/525321...mrose-oil/

Fats and oils are essential to your health and many of your body's functions. The oils most important for brain, nerves and skin include the essential fatty acids, which are available in a variety of foods that include olive oil and avocados. Flaxseeds also provide an important essential fatty acid called omega-3, which is strongest in its oil. Evening primrose, which contains omega-6s, is not usually consumed as a food, but rather its oil is taken in supplement form.


Flaxseed oil comes from the seeds of the flax plant. This oil provides the important essential fatty acids linolenic acid and linoleic acid, according to Shawn M. Talbott in his book "The Health Professional's Guide to Dietary Supplements." Flaxseed oil contains about 57 percent linolenic acid, which is an omega-3 fatty acid, and about 17 percent linoleic acid, an omega-6 fatty acid. It is important to get a balance of omega-3 fatty acids to omega-6 fatty acids. However, the standard American diet contains too many omega-6 fatty acids and few omega-3 fatty acids. Omega-3 fatty acids help counter inflammation and increase brain function. Flaxseed oil also contains lignan, which is a phytochemical that may help cancer prevention.

Evening primrose oil comes from the herb Oenothera biennis, which has bright yellow flowers that bloom in the evening, writes Talbott. The plant grows wild in dry, arid environments, and was first documented in Britain as being used for medicinal purposes. The main oil found in evening primrose oil is gamma-linolenic acid, another essential fatty acid, though it also contains linoleic acid. People have taken evening primrose oil include to relieve PMS, hot flashes and fibrocystic breasts.

How They Differ
The main difference between flaxseed oil and evening primrose oil is that the former contains the omega-3 linolenic acid, while the latter contains the omega-6 gamma-linolenic acid, or GLA for short. Omega-3s are linked to a lower risk of heart disease, cancer and arthritis, often through their anti-inflammatory properties, notes the University of Maryland Medical Center. Though GLA is an omega-6 fatty acid, which is sometimes connected to inflammation, it is one form of omega-6 that also can reduce inflammation, but is geared more toward skin, hair, reproductive and bone health. But the University of Maryland reports that more research favors the anti-inflammatory properties of the omega-3 fatty acids found in flaxseed oil more than that of GLA found in evening primrose oil.

What to Consider
Both flaxseed oil and evening primrose oil can be healthy parts of your diet, and you can consume both at the same time. Ingesting more flaxseed oil or flaxseeds than evening primrose oil can help balance your intake of omega-3 fatty acids and omega-6 fatty acids. Possible side effects related to flaxseed oil are diarrhea if you consume large amounts and the increased risk of bleeding if you suffer from a bleeding disorder. Nausea, upset stomach or diarrhea may occur if you take too much evening primrose oil.