[GoneGirl]

Damn, sorry to share this in case it's real.

Does it mean that Estrogen will help grow boobs, but Phytoestrogens is normally used to SLOW breast growth (preventing the stronger estrogen compounds from entering)?

"Phytoestrogens are plant-based estrogens. The 2 most prominent sources are soy and flax, although there are some herbs that act as SERMs (Selective Estrogen Receptor Modulators) these include Red Clover, Black Cohosh and European Rosemary. Phytoestrogens have a weak estrogenic effect. They are thought to benefit breast health by locking onto estrogen receptors in breast tissue and thus preventing the stronger and more dangerous estrogen compounds from entering."

From >> http://www.womenswellnessconsulting.com/pro_active_protocol/estrogen_101/index.html

Jesse, you are reading an interesting and informative piece on estrogens, but understand that it's written in context of a woman's body, not a man's.

I'm a novice at understanding the complexities of the human endocrine system, but, trust me, estrogen grows breasts in males, as well as females. Phyto-estrogens will trigger breast growth in males, too, but the effect is much weaker than human estrogen or synthetic estrogen, and not everyone responds the same way.

You say that PM is not working for you. That's unfortunate, but don't give up. Try other approaches. Check out the programs of others here at BN. And, give it time to work.

CK