[onesexybitch]

And by adding it to boiling water it put the chemical that was similar to estrogen into an ionic compound that would bypass digestion. - when powdered Fenugreek reaches the digestive system most of the estrogen is lost. -here none is lost.

I was probably getting a thousands times the estrogen you would get by using it to flavor foods. and you consume a very small amount once a day!

It was used thousands of years ago to increase the milk supply of women.

You do realize these are basically mutually exclusive properties? Fenugreek has been very well studied and found to contain absolutely NO phytoestrogens to begin with.

And if it did have a lot of estrogens the last thing it'd do is increase women's breast milk. Estrogen is antagonistic to prolactin, which is the bodies natural galactagogue.

What it DOES contain is something that acts in a way to increase the excretion of prolactin, a compound that behaves similarly to progesterone (aka progestin) and a compound or group of compounds that somehow act in an adaptogenic way to shut off certain of the negative feedback loops in the body.

So if it actually did work, it did so because of the progestin and prolactin and IF estrogen, it was your bodies own natural estrogen somehow being made to be produced more. Perhaps in response to the prolactin surge? Since estrogen and prolactin are antagonistic, perhaps the body might increase estrogen in response to an unexpected sudden prolactin surge. Remember, in nature prolactin NEVER surges, it slowly rises during pregnancy until it reaches a very high level where it stays until the mother stops nursing.

It also slowly rises and falls every single cycle in a woman's menstrual cycle, with the peak on ovulation day.

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