[AbiDrew85]

This is a very interesting thread
I wish more people woild have constructed logical responses than to attack simply because they feel attacked. She has an opinion, ignore her ass if you dont like it or have constructive things to sah.
On another note, Tibetan you are an amazing soul, Ive always thought and now I was prompted to say it. I am very very spiritual as well. I believe all things existing in our universe is energy. Including us and our enironment. The human experience to me, is this energy within a male or female body: a body. Now while I agree that there are generally accepted ways of viewing gender, they are not concrete. We can see this as they vary not only from person to perspn but also to societies. I think think this hints at the fact that therw is no supposed way a person of any gender SHOULD be that is held as rule or law.The only rule is that females share certain body parts as do males. Nor do I beleive our energy has a specified gender. We are what we are in this universe and honestly being a person in a body is a small part of it. Now I dont agree with having a wrong body as that could never be in my understanding of the universe. I mah once have been a star, a rock or whatever. If I was born male I would love myself no less, I will always be the same me! Your body has a gender, you do not.

We dont all have to agree but at least lets try to understand others so that we may better understand ourselves. Maybe ppl are just addressibg the wrong issues, asvTibetan said.

I'm afraid my very existence brings these views into a position that I cannot reconcile them with my own experience.

I am a Christian, from a Mormon background, with a strong sense of "rightness" in many of the traditions of the People (Native American/Canadian Aborigine). I myself am something like 1/16th of the People.

Due to my background, I didn't quite exactly go on a "spirit quest" like a true member of the People might, but I did do a soul search. And I found myself to be in possession of a female soul. Now a soul is a form of energy, yes, but this energy, in my experience, does possess a gender. And mine is female.

Due to my Mormon Christian background this led me into a very deep discourse with my maker, and I feel that he has done this, with my agreement, so that I may learn and grow in ways that would not have been possible had I been born with the female sex.

Many people who are not gender binary will tell you that gender is a mind thing. I will not refute that, but to me, our mind is merely a window to the soul, and it is the soul that has a gender. The body has a sex. Or maybe it doesn't. But the soul has gender. I imagine there really are girl and boy rocks out there.