28-02-2013, 08:09 AM
Oh, where to start! My comment that people take herbs for many reasons was supposed to be a hint, (a poor one, I guess), that there are feasible reasons to give a physician (assuming the gyno or breast subject is even broached) for your herbal consumption. People don't JUST take ginseng as an aphrodisiac. It has other benefits.
Let's see, PM is supposed to: 1. Be an anti-colon and anti-prostate cancer agent. 2. Make skin appear smoother and younger. 3. Reduce wrinkles. 4. Reduce appearance of cellulite. 5. Improve blood circulation. 6. Increase energy and sexual vitality. 7. Strengthen nails and hair. There may be more, but that list takes about 1 minute to compile from the internet. Could it be possible, say, that you have a friend that is a bit of a natural health nut, and that said friend recommended PM to you for any number of the supposed benefits of PM? (Hey, if you can't trust a friend)? Or, you yourself were looking on-line for something of a non-pharmaceutical nature that posesses anti-aging properties, and lo and behold guess what popped up? Any number of reasonable constructs would be possible.
Again, honestly being desireable, you'd be telling the truth, just not the whole truth. Willing to go that route to save embarassment? Still 100% better than any politician I know. AND, all this assumes that the doctor notices something, (are there really that few older men in the UK with man-boobs)? AND assuming they mention man-boobs, just how deeply will they delve into the issue. If one really wants to fall on ones' "gender dysphoria" sword right out of the gate, then "good luck to ya". You may, possibly, get lucky. More likely it will be downhill a ways. All I'm saying is that with all the agonizing over what could result from a GD revelation, "why go there if ya doesn't have to"?? On the other hand, if one wants to flaunt ones' development, then stick your neck way out and just do it. While I'm at it, does PM, or any of the other concoctions some people here take, even stand a chance of showing up in any blood tests a doctor may order?? I doubt it, (unless some of that horsemeat was laced with estrogens). That was only a joke.
I'm curious. A number of the folks here express the opinion that they are GD. Is that a good thing to them, or a concern? Or is it an excuse to grow boobs? We have to be honest with ourselves as well as our docs. Is it a case of "I am GD, but I'm cool with it"? Or is it a case of "I am GD and it's driving me up a wall"? If it's driving you up a wall, then for sanities' sake, take it up with a doctor. You're only delaying the inevitable.
Yes, there are some here who have had the GD issue lessened, or largely eliminated, by taking PM. However, for those that do, but throw in a few other herbs along with the PM, Let's be honest, you're doing it for the boobs. I have also seen, that some felt their GD issue was solved with 1 gram/day of PM. (Whoopee, I'm no longer a crossdresser, or no longer having trans thoughts)!! Then it became 2 grams to solve it. Then it became 3 grams. Where does that stop?? Or, has it also "become more about the boobs"?
Long again. I'm a bit surprised to see this thread get so far without veering massively off-track. Take care, all. Patti
Let's see, PM is supposed to: 1. Be an anti-colon and anti-prostate cancer agent. 2. Make skin appear smoother and younger. 3. Reduce wrinkles. 4. Reduce appearance of cellulite. 5. Improve blood circulation. 6. Increase energy and sexual vitality. 7. Strengthen nails and hair. There may be more, but that list takes about 1 minute to compile from the internet. Could it be possible, say, that you have a friend that is a bit of a natural health nut, and that said friend recommended PM to you for any number of the supposed benefits of PM? (Hey, if you can't trust a friend)? Or, you yourself were looking on-line for something of a non-pharmaceutical nature that posesses anti-aging properties, and lo and behold guess what popped up? Any number of reasonable constructs would be possible.
Again, honestly being desireable, you'd be telling the truth, just not the whole truth. Willing to go that route to save embarassment? Still 100% better than any politician I know. AND, all this assumes that the doctor notices something, (are there really that few older men in the UK with man-boobs)? AND assuming they mention man-boobs, just how deeply will they delve into the issue. If one really wants to fall on ones' "gender dysphoria" sword right out of the gate, then "good luck to ya". You may, possibly, get lucky. More likely it will be downhill a ways. All I'm saying is that with all the agonizing over what could result from a GD revelation, "why go there if ya doesn't have to"?? On the other hand, if one wants to flaunt ones' development, then stick your neck way out and just do it. While I'm at it, does PM, or any of the other concoctions some people here take, even stand a chance of showing up in any blood tests a doctor may order?? I doubt it, (unless some of that horsemeat was laced with estrogens). That was only a joke.
I'm curious. A number of the folks here express the opinion that they are GD. Is that a good thing to them, or a concern? Or is it an excuse to grow boobs? We have to be honest with ourselves as well as our docs. Is it a case of "I am GD, but I'm cool with it"? Or is it a case of "I am GD and it's driving me up a wall"? If it's driving you up a wall, then for sanities' sake, take it up with a doctor. You're only delaying the inevitable.
Yes, there are some here who have had the GD issue lessened, or largely eliminated, by taking PM. However, for those that do, but throw in a few other herbs along with the PM, Let's be honest, you're doing it for the boobs. I have also seen, that some felt their GD issue was solved with 1 gram/day of PM. (Whoopee, I'm no longer a crossdresser, or no longer having trans thoughts)!! Then it became 2 grams to solve it. Then it became 3 grams. Where does that stop?? Or, has it also "become more about the boobs"?
Long again. I'm a bit surprised to see this thread get so far without veering massively off-track. Take care, all. Patti