15-01-2013, 07:53 PM
(This post was last modified: 15-01-2013, 07:57 PM by TibetanPrincess.)
(15-01-2013, 07:41 PM)AbiDrew85 Wrote:(15-01-2013, 01:49 PM)Misty0732 Wrote: Interesting to hear that. Just about everywhere else I've looked says that it is. From the LiveStrong site:
"Fenugreek seeds contain diosgen, which is a plant-based phytoestrogen that can mimic the actions of the hormone estrogen in the body."
Read more: http://www.livestrong.com/article/403569-when-do-you-take-fenugreek/#ixzz2I2zejVTF
Also here:
"The high levels of phytoestrogen in fenugreek may protect against certain types of cancers.
Fenugreek may help slow the progression of HIV and other chronic viral illnesses."
Read more: http://www.livestrong.com/article/212526-fenugreek-prostate-health/#ixzz2I30NVAkQ
Do you have a link that counters these? I have a good supply of FG left that I set aside when I started PM.
Thanks!
Misty
Well, there's a single monumentally fundamental flaw in what livestrong says: diosgenin is NOT a phyto ANYTHING. It's actually an adaptogen. VERY different!
It's ALSO a hormonal precursor which many people used to mistakenly believe meant that it would turn into whatever magical hormone they most wanted it to turn into. It doesn't. It takes lab processing to turn diosgenin into hormones. A lab can make estradiol out of diosgenin. In fact most pharma estradiol is synthed from diosgenin. A lab can also make testosterone from diosgenin. In fact........ And progesterone... Get the pattern?
But when taken into the body it's strictly an adaptogen. And it's adaptive function in the body appears to be a "remove negative feedback loops" effect, allowing you to take all your hormone levels past their normal caps.
It's useful for some. IF I wanted to take a diosgenin, though, I'd take wild yam. Better source of diosgenin. And. Doesn't come with smelly side effects.
I read both progesterone like hormone and estrogen like hormones can both be made from diosgenin which is probably why there are so many differing results from those who take it. So I am starting to think this adaptogenic response IS real in when taken in the body. It is in UB and I think this is really helping in the results dept.