08-01-2013, 05:37 PM
(This post was last modified: 08-01-2013, 05:45 PM by chrishoney.)
(08-01-2013, 01:27 AM)tibetan113 Wrote: Lol, I never SAID that. It somehow brings the estrogen up by not allowing E to turn into a type of androgen. Therefore its like getting a another load of estrogen when they could have been on their way to androgen city. Why else would one's ass get fatter. It happened to me. I get estrogen dominant like symptoms and notice my thighs and ass are bigger than ever and that = estrogen.
Sorry, but this is just as incorrect as your first statement regarding a double dose of estrogen. There is NO enzymatic pathway to convert estradiol or any other form of estrogen into any kind of androgen. It simply does not happen. The conversion of testosterone to estradiol via the aromatase enzymatic pathway is one way. It is not reversible. Therefore, SP can not increase estrogen levels by your proposed mechanism.
There is speculation (perhaps hope is a better word) that by inhibiting the conversion of T to DHT via 5-alpha reductase (this is all that SP does) the increased T (that is no longer converted) will be aromatized to estradiol. Without something else to alter the normal hormone levels the body tries to maintain (such as coleus forskolii which is said to increase aromatase activity), in all likelihood, the feedback mechanisms between the pituitary and gonads will reduce T production long before significant amounts of estradiol are produced. (You can check the enzymatic pathways of steroidogenesis in humans in the diagram near the bottom of this page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Testosterone)
Again, in my opinion, this is in contradiction to your original statement of receiving an effective double dose of estrogen.
I would venture that the doubling effect you felt Tibetan is more because you have high levels of endogenous estradiol to begin with, while the OP and most of the rest of us do not.