01-01-2013, 09:50 PM
On The Fence, My first advice to you would be to use the product as advised. The producer web site specifically says "apply to shoulders and upper arms that will be covered by a t-shirt". I suspect that this is not only because those area are primarily made up of muscles, but also to avoid contact by others, such as your spouse. Such contact will cause undesireable changes to her! I don't know what your current "breast" situation is, but if you're like a lot of older men, you may have some "male breast" tissue already. If so, be aware that it is not muscle, but rather, is mostly fat. Fat, from what I've seen, is a hormone magnet. Once it grabs a hormone, it ain't lettin"go!! That's the big reason many creams and patches, as well as injections, are recommended for muscle zones, so the body can absorb them properly. I have the Androderm 4mg patches, and nowhere in the product info sheet does it mention breast growth or even tenderness as a side effect. It could be that your chest is not providing proper absorbtion, keeping it all locally, and causing an irritation or some similar effect due to improper use. Talk to your doctor, and be honest with him and tell him you haven't been following his directions, and get his opinion. If you don't want to tell him you've been doing it wrong, at least start doing it right, and see what happens then.
This stuff is potent!! If you are using it regularly, (and correctly) you should note changes quite rapidly!! I sure did!! I quit using them because they gave me skin irritation that took forever to go away, as well as my wife wasn't exactly thrilled with my increase in libido!! If you continue using it, be respectful of your wife and prevent any contact between her and the gell, even after dried. Hell, I wouldn't even let her be around when it was open so she could breathe the stuff!! When she starts growing hair in strange places and such, she'll be quite disleased!!
It's just like anything else, ya gots to use it the way it was designed. It's almost the same as when somone takes a pill that was specifically designed to be swallowed and uses it sublingually. Each specific medicine has a dosage determined by how it is designed to be taken. (Just for example), Premarin in a 1.25mg pill is meant to be swallowed. The same amount of hormone in a patch is 1/30 the strength of the pill, due to the absorbtion rate of the skin. If you took the pill sublingually, you'd be getting a terrificly high dose of the hormone, due to the different absorbtion rate of medicine taken under the tongue. (provided you had the patience to keep it there for 3-4 hours). We all need to be careful about how we use what we do use. Be respectful of the time and effort that goes into developing all these things, and patient enough to use them correctly. As always, I welcome any corrections, I'm no MD. Patti
This stuff is potent!! If you are using it regularly, (and correctly) you should note changes quite rapidly!! I sure did!! I quit using them because they gave me skin irritation that took forever to go away, as well as my wife wasn't exactly thrilled with my increase in libido!! If you continue using it, be respectful of your wife and prevent any contact between her and the gell, even after dried. Hell, I wouldn't even let her be around when it was open so she could breathe the stuff!! When she starts growing hair in strange places and such, she'll be quite disleased!!
It's just like anything else, ya gots to use it the way it was designed. It's almost the same as when somone takes a pill that was specifically designed to be swallowed and uses it sublingually. Each specific medicine has a dosage determined by how it is designed to be taken. (Just for example), Premarin in a 1.25mg pill is meant to be swallowed. The same amount of hormone in a patch is 1/30 the strength of the pill, due to the absorbtion rate of the skin. If you took the pill sublingually, you'd be getting a terrificly high dose of the hormone, due to the different absorbtion rate of medicine taken under the tongue. (provided you had the patience to keep it there for 3-4 hours). We all need to be careful about how we use what we do use. Be respectful of the time and effort that goes into developing all these things, and patient enough to use them correctly. As always, I welcome any corrections, I'm no MD. Patti

