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Welcome to the board.

Thank you. ^^

I'm curious about your desire to hide your breasts while they're developing. Is this something you're willing to go to great lengths to as it will take several years for your breasts to be fully developed? Until you've attained a certain amount of growth I think hiding your budding breasts would mostly entail giving up on swimming and being discrete in public locker rooms.

If you are worried about other people influencing your feelings about growing breasts, maybe now isn't the time to get involved with NBE. It's best to make sure this is something you really want to go through from start to finish. I imagine it would be quite a stressful life if every time you went out in public you worried about whether anyone would make a rude or negative comment about your budding breasts.

As I mentioned before, I consider myself an intelligent person, and as such I can't believe that there is a single person that wouldn't have some level of doubt in them about this major of a life change. Sure, it may be nothing more than a silent whisper, but I'm certain it is always there. I believe that all I've done is give that silent whisper a voice. The doubt it there, the fact that I bring it up makes that obvious, but I want genuine female breasts enough to push that whisper aside. My concern is that if I don't hide them until a certain point, that doubt may grow and be manipulated by the whispers and opinions of others, whereas if I hide them, they'll be my gems to consider without outside influence.

While I am relatively new here and have just started NBE myself, the best advice I can give is to just be patient.

I've spent the better part of the last decade conducting my own Internet-based research, testing ideas, and ultimately concluding that I have no interest in becoming a girl, but I do want what society deems to be a defining part of the female body, their breasts. It's confusing, well, not so much confusing as it is complicated.

PM stands for Pueraria Mirifica which is an extremely phytoestrogenic herb (it is a plant that mimics the female hormone estrogen). It is pretty popular and is actually what I have started on. SP stands for Saw Palmetto, which is a plant that is used to treat prostate issues. It functions by helping to lower DHT, which is the more potent form of testosterone. Many males may take this to make the process of raising the ratio of estrogen to testosterone easier, as too much testosterone will block the effects of estrogen.

Thank you for defining those. I've seen them all over the forum and never figured them out. I was actually taking Saw Palmetto with the Flat2Fem program, but I guess it wasn't enough for the program to work in full.

Another thing you should ask yourself is are you wanting children, because changing the chemical balance in your body to develop breasts can sometimes cause fertility problems.

Honestly, I don't have any particular preference on the subject of children. It's not that I don't want them, I just don't not want them. I hope that makes more sense to you than it did to me. :S

Good Luck!

Thank you. ^^

At the risk of sounding unsympathetic the best advice anyone can give you regarding your several questions is: READ, READ, READ as much of this extensive forum as you can tolerate. Even if you don't have a life outside NBE concerns, it would take you days if not weeks to wade through just the Breast Growth for Males section and the archives.

Use the search function built into BN (abbreviation for breastnexus.com). Using that function and simply searching on keyword "abbreviation" I found the answer to what PM and SP are (hint they are abbreviations.) You can search on keywords in just the title of posts or the entire post. If you find one member's ideas especially resonant, you can search for all their posts, including in many cases a program page and photos of results. START SEARCHING!

There is also a significant font of useful information with regard to personal programs and experiences in the BN archives, which are the accumulated posts in the old BN format. There is a huge amount of information there. You need to find it and spend many days sifting through it.

I'm sorry, but I can't help but "lol" at that first line. Please, feel free to hit me with whatever comments and criticism you feel I need.

As for reading through BreastNexus, believe me, I am. I do apologize for my lack on knowledge of acronyms, but five years in the Marine Corps will fill your head with so many of them that you'll never know what any of them mean, just what they refer to. Plus I've yet to see PM and SP elsewhere. :S

Now that I do know what they mean, I can honestly say I know nothing about PM, Google resulted in several technical pages, and sales websites, that confused me, as usual. As for SP, I've taken that in the past, and I can now properly reference it. ^^'

And then there is the ubiquitous internet (it's gotta be true, I read it on the internet, right?!) Simply google searching (or bing or whatever for that matter) gets downright tedious and daunting as you will get one gem for every couple hundred BS/sales/promotional sites merely designed to part you from your hard earned cash, not help you achieve your goals. A huge resource in this regard is searching www.scholar.google.com instead of a regular google search. You just have to get good/creative in the search terms you use. Search for any herb you are interested in plus any desired effects and/or side effects. Remember for most of the rest of the world, males growing breasts is an UNDESIRABLE side effect.

Thank you for the helpful tips on researching the matter. I've been using keywords like "male breast enlargement" and "how to grow breasts", but I tend to get the sales websites or technical jargon that is too much into physiology for my lack of education. :S

EVERYONE who has had success with NBE has done their homework in this regard. In my opinion it is even MORE important for males considering this process. While you are searching and sifting to find information relevant to YOUR unique situation, you will also be evaluating if this is really right for you, and how you can best keep yourself safe while achieving your goals. You may find your goals change in the process, or you may find your resolve grows stronger, either way you need to go through that process for yourself.

I understand that, probably more than you think I do. I've been through the entire spectrum, considering all the possibilities, including basic sexuality, and over the course of ten years, almost eleven, that I'm a guy interested in girls with a distinct need for female breasts of his own. It's not like I came to this conclusion in a matter of weeks, I've done extensive research, though only a fraction of it I could understand. Ultimately, a major factor in my decisions have been experimentation, including closet-cross-dressing. The feel of a good bra against my skin is indescribable, but more than that, the appearance of myself with a full bust (inserts) was something I fell in love with. Now I want that bust to be real, even if not as big.

The bottom line: YOU need to do YOUR homework. You need to know what 5-alpha reductase is and why it may be important to your situation, or not. You need to know what aromatase is. You need to understand

5-alpha reductase converts testosterone into dihydrotestosterone, which counteracts the effects of E. Aromatase is a key enzyme in the conversion of androstenedione to estrone and testosterone to estradiol. Estrone and estradiol are two forms of naturally occurring estrogen, estradiol being one of them most potent in terms for estrogenic effects.

Do I pass my chemistry final?

I'm not trying to say that I'm beating around the issue, that I don't know something in particular or that there is an actual void of knowledge on the subject. It's not the lack of knowledge that's the issue, it's the lack on understanding. Understanding what certain things do is easy, but I have a hard time with grasping the concepts involved in manipulating the status quo. That's why I asked for help, because I know that the individual things do, I just can't seem to grasp the grander picture to piece it all together for what I want.

Good luck and keep us posted on what program you try and any results.

Thank you for the support. I do understand you're trying to be helpful, and you were. I've gotten better results with scholar.google.com, and some better ideas on what to actually search for. ^^