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I am amazed that to me they have changed but no one sees it. Vanity I guess.

I've been thinking about that myself. Is it because of a rising trend of males growing fat/breast tissue? Are people generally oblivious to their surroundings? Or is it people are too polite to say anything or to stare?

I would bet if we walked around in public shirtless we would get some attention.