[bryony]

no, I don't plan to start on progesterone (and defiantly not synthetics) for quite a bit, the flat to fem guide suggested every 4th week but I think I may wait a month or 2 at the very least.

I find this flat to fem guide a bit dated and/or suspect. If it doesn't mention PM, it must be dated, because it far outstrips any other herbal, and if it recommends progesterone it is suspect. You really don't need that until you can fill a bra at least.

Search the forum for "micronised" - JulieTG has used it, but had substantial growth beforehand.

I thought of an alternative for breastcream instead of wild yam, I found some liquid Red Clover at the store today and since the Red Clover is said to be good at giving the proper shape to the fat redistribution I thought that might just be a good idea to use and not smell like maple syrup.

Again, if flat2fem recommends wild yam it is doubly suspect.

Yam contains only precursor chemicals, which, if processed by a chemical lab will produce sythetic progesterone - the human body cannot do it. There are no herbal progesterone products on the market right now - until recently it was thought that it did not exist in plants, though apparently there is a small quantity in certain varieties of walnut.

Search this forum for progesterone to see the discussions.

anyhow I just put in an order for some PM from Ainterol and plan to start on that once I get it.

Good plan. Save your money and stick with that - results are [almost] guaranteed! (assuming all your female forbears weren't flat chested!)

B.