16-04-2012, 04:44 AM
Hi,
Not sure I can provide much of an answer and please excuse my ignorance in what hormones turn into and actually do.
My GP who specialises in trans health pretty much dismissed phytoestrogens as being ineffective after seeing the test results! I had bloods done a couple of weeks ago (he called them "baseline HRT" which is promising) and everything is in the middle of normal for a 50-year old male. However, that doesn't explain the breasts (almost a B) that are attached to my non-fat bod (BMI of 24 and reducing)!!! He did ask if I actually wanted them!!! Ummmm.....YES! Old GP offered to arrange surgery to remove the breast tissue!
I think perhaps doctors only know about the phyto effects of weaker plants such as Soy where you appaernetly have to consume large amounts (my old GP confirmed breast growth and asked if I was eating alot of soy).
My new GP did make sure that my intake had only been plant-based which reinforces this thought. If the E had been synthetic, the approach may have been different.
The question I have now is to what extent does PM and reduced DHT from various things taken actually show up on hormone blood tests? If the test is for human (or synthetic human) hormones, does phyto-e material show up? It may be that the receptors are getting enough phyto-e while the hormone mix they test for don't change much.
Not sue I have added much. Might have to ask an Endo if and when I get in front of one.
Bye
L
Not sure I can provide much of an answer and please excuse my ignorance in what hormones turn into and actually do.
My GP who specialises in trans health pretty much dismissed phytoestrogens as being ineffective after seeing the test results! I had bloods done a couple of weeks ago (he called them "baseline HRT" which is promising) and everything is in the middle of normal for a 50-year old male. However, that doesn't explain the breasts (almost a B) that are attached to my non-fat bod (BMI of 24 and reducing)!!! He did ask if I actually wanted them!!! Ummmm.....YES! Old GP offered to arrange surgery to remove the breast tissue!
I think perhaps doctors only know about the phyto effects of weaker plants such as Soy where you appaernetly have to consume large amounts (my old GP confirmed breast growth and asked if I was eating alot of soy).
My new GP did make sure that my intake had only been plant-based which reinforces this thought. If the E had been synthetic, the approach may have been different.
The question I have now is to what extent does PM and reduced DHT from various things taken actually show up on hormone blood tests? If the test is for human (or synthetic human) hormones, does phyto-e material show up? It may be that the receptors are getting enough phyto-e while the hormone mix they test for don't change much.
Not sue I have added much. Might have to ask an Endo if and when I get in front of one.
Bye
L