[beverley.rose]

its been over a week now...taking 1500 per day....in my job as a service manager for a large gm dealership, its a very stressful job, yesterday had noticed that have been very calm...many crisis, but nothing rattled me, was able to stay on task and get alot of things done that have been setting

As I have said to others, I found the mental effects kicked in long before any physical changes, so I am not surprised by what you say

....so here i am, a gay man,

I suspect that is why your emotional side is coming through. Gay men tend to be more empathetic. I suspect that oestrogenic herbs increase any empathy in your emotional makeup, or at least boost it or enable it.

down side is very tired all the time,

Another well known effect... try adjusting your schedule so you sleep more (go to bed earlier) and do your more energetic or thought-intense work early in the day.

and cannot stop touching the chest

Yes, well.... we ALL do that and hope that today it is bigger than yesterday, but the sad truth is it takes MONTHS. I wish it was faster. I have already 'jiggled' mine today and a few massages are going to happen later.

......have noticed some weight gain also...not liking that

Adjust your diet by skipping all snacks. Eat more vegetables, drink caffiented coffee early in the day and drink tea after 6pm. If you cannot skip snacks then cut them in half and give half away. After a few weeks of getting used to this you should be able to drop snacks altoghter and you will be amazed at how much weight you will lose. I have lost 30lbs in 8 months and that is how I did it. My dress size has gone from UK 18/20 to UK12/14. I still eat 3 good solid meals a day and I have made no other changes in my diet. Last night I had sausages, chips (fries to the Yanks) peas, mushrooms, 2 granary rolls with butter and a cup of tea. Not exactly a dieter's dinner!

Beverley